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remove 2 flag 4vs4 domination games

Diundriel
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First, I preferred the old BGs with 3 teams as they were much more dynamic. With the new two team BGs you either have a static tank / heal match or it is completly unbalanced and you know how the match is going to play out after 20 seconds gameplay and 10 minutes in waiting queue...

BUT the absolute worst game mode are the new 4vs4 2 flag domination games pls add a third flag and/or remove the ones with just two flags. Teams just dont fight at all and round around in circles just to turn flags (without fighting in a pvp gamemode), or it is absolute slow and static and both teams got one flag (meaning whoever turned the flag first within first 5 seconds of match is gonna win) and there is no way that one team actually holds both flags to catch up.

Is that just my opinion or does anyone share this view?
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remove 2 flag 4vs4 domination games 8 votes

remove 2flag 4vs4 DOMINATION BG games as they are boring
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Pink_ViolinzMicah_BayerDiundrielGreystagketsparrowhawkCast_Eldanko355 7 votes
keep 2flag 4vs4 domination gamemode - as it is the most fun gamemode
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i dont enjoy domination games at all, remove them completly and let us just have crazy king
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Aldoss 1 vote
  • IndigoDreams
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    food for thought, this is nearly identical to what was said in 3 team format.

  • Aldoss
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    i dont enjoy domination games at all, remove them completly and let us just have crazy king
    Domination is just a horrible game mode design. Crazy King is so much better. Domination really just shouldn't be a mode at all. It's so bad and this weekend has made it plainly obvious.
  • danko355
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    remove 2flag 4vs4 DOMINATION BG games as they are boring
    I would vote for 1 and 3 options. 4v4 domination is exactly like TS described, and 8v8 is too fast and messy to enjoy it.
  • fizzylu
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    Diundriel wrote: »
    or it is absolute slow and static and both teams got one flag (meaning whoever turned the flag first within first 5 seconds of match is gonna win) and there is no way that one team actually holds both flags to catch up.
    10/10 gameplay, I'm sure.

    Jokes aside, I didn't mind domination in 4v4v4. I even enjoy the rotating and going to new flags since in the old BGs it would put me in a lot of 1v1, 1v1v1, or 1v2 situations which I enjoyed.... but I can definitely imagine just how bad having 2 teams and only 2 flags is without having played that mode (guess I've been lucky to not get it so far). And I'd say throwing in a third flag seems like the logical thing to do.
  • xylena_lazarow
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    Diundriel wrote: »
    much more dynamic
    I didn't see it as dynamic, I saw it as third party trolls ensuring there will never be meaningful competition, specific to the flag games it was also incredibly easy to completely avoid any and all PvP while your two enemies fight over another flag, and be handsomely rewarded on the scoreboard for such avoiding PvP.

    Going 2-sided completely fixed all the deathmatch/objective toxicity and made Crazy King actually good.
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  • Diundriel
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    remove 2flag 4vs4 DOMINATION BG games as they are boring
    Diundriel wrote: »
    much more dynamic
    I didn't see it as dynamic, I saw it as third party trolls ensuring there will never be meaningful competition, specific to the flag games it was also incredibly easy to completely avoid any and all PvP while your two enemies fight over another flag, and be handsomely rewarded on the scoreboard for such avoiding PvP.

    Going 2-sided completely fixed all the deathmatch/objective toxicity and made Crazy King actually good.

    totally agree that crazy king / death match are atm the best gamemodes. But this discussion is about two flag domination 4vs4 and not wanting / remembering old 3 team BGs... i think with two teams domination could perhaps fully be replaced by crazy king or atleast have an uneven number of flags in domination gamemodes...

    if you enjoy new 2 flag 4vs 4 you can vote for it in this poll but from what i have experienced it is the most boring gamemode by far
    Edited by Diundriel on November 18, 2024 5:19PM
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    Characters:
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    Nawrina- DC StamDK AvA 26
    Not Ganking- StamNB PVE DD
    Stack Pls- DC ManaNB AvA 20
    radiant destruction- AD AvA 30
    Der kleine Troll- DC StamDen AvA 25
    and some I deleted and new ones I am to lazy to add so well above 300 Mio AP and 7 Former Emperor Characters
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