joshisanonymous wrote: »The Vestige kind of does a ton of stuff and always for the greater good, which is limiting if you don't envision your character as a supernatural, highly productive do-gooder. So what's your characters backstory and how does it fit in or not?
The character you play in ESO is set apart from other Soul-Shriven escapees (though I think the idea of there being a mass of escapees hasn't been used much since early access?) by the nature of being the only one having an "intrinsic Anuic aspect".Ajaxandriel wrote: »In my opinion the idea of a unique Vestige is deeply flawed to begin with.
Nevermind the bit I said earlier, this would also still be untrue due to them being a Prisoner, a specific concept or person during a period of time that is more capable than others- among other things.Ajaxandriel wrote: »the Vestige and this story as if it were a unique being
What other players are depends on the specific zome/setting/quest/etc.Ajaxandriel wrote: »Yet the starting scenes and base story already stated there were a continent-scaled "Soulburst event" and also, thousands of characters were captured and sacrificed by the Worm Cult, quite some of them being able to escape one way or another.
ESO heavily emphasises the PC having others help them with their goals, and vice versa! So yes, you are correct in a way, but it's not due to the Vestige, the Player Character, being less special or important.Ajaxandriel wrote: »So my first point here:
Even if "the Vestige" story is about exceptional stuff (championning Meridia and fighting Molag Bal in person) it is by no means less a multiplayer-multiple Class of characters than "the Sorcerer","the Thief", "the Nebarra/Psijic", "the Archaeologist", "the Scholarium scribe" and so on.
It's not a dragon Break, and doesn't really need one to explain it (as long as you ignore some of the devs making the very weird decision in the past few yars to say everything happens at once- which a whole other dumb issue entirely)Ajaxandriel wrote: »But even if they were unique, in the end of the day, we should see all this happening everywhere all at once as a Warp in Tamriel, a Dragon Break of some sort.
Your interpretation of a "specific concept or person" that is contradictory with a multiplayer game to begin with, but also contradictory with soloplayer games of which each instance is meant to be canon somehow, since TES3 and the Warp in the West.Nevermind the bit I said earlier, this would also still be untrue due to them being a Prisoner, a specific concept or person during a period of time that is more capable than others- among other things.
This is the most non-canonical piece of canon one could use as an evidence - since it was moot when Auridon released and it was plain retconned when Summerset released.the Numinous.
“Title and social status are of supreme importance to the Altmer! The Queen has granted all Numinous the noble title of “Optimate” – an honor indeed! You need defer to no one of lower status than a Kinlord.”
Well, it seems I still won't agree with yours eitherWith all that said, as you yourself have done already, anyone can RP as whatever they wish; I just don't agree with what you've said about the Vestige as a character.
Ajaxandriel wrote: »Your interpretation of a "specific concept or person" that is contradictory with a multiplayer game to begin with, but also contradictory with soloplayer games of which each instance is meant to be canon somehow, since TES3 and the Warp in the West.Nevermind the bit I said earlier, this would also still be untrue due to them being a Prisoner, a specific concept or person during a period of time that is more capable than others- among other things.
"Prisoner" is the Elder Scrolls' jargon for the concept of Adventurers or Heroes in other classic fantasy settings. Many fictional settings do acknowledge a difference between the common mortals and the (playable) protagonist, uniqueness is not a mandatory feature of the concept.This is the most non-canonical piece of canon one could use as an evidence - since it was moot when Auridon released and it was plain retconned when Summerset released.the Numinous.
But yet again, the Numinous as a draft for the Soulshriven concept - and a diegetic placeholder for Player-Adventurer - was meant to be multiple:“Title and social status are of supreme importance to the Altmer! The Queen has granted all Numinous the noble title of “Optimate” – an honor indeed! You need defer to no one of lower status than a Kinlord.”
Soulshriven/Numinous is the diegetic explanation of why the adventurers can't die - as a MMORPG mechanic that is acknowledged.
Some RPG settings justify this, by gods or angel's will - notoriously the graveyard in WoW - some others by time-warping or "re-tell the story otherwise", ESO chose primarly this "soulless" or "tainted soul" condition as a solution.Well, it seems I still won't agree with yours eitherWith all that said, as you yourself have done already, anyone can RP as whatever they wish; I just don't agree with what you've said about the Vestige as a character.