Skill ups from Reading from the Bookshelves

Ezzrah_ESO · May 2014

Hello. I just wanted to stop by and ask if it is harder to get skill ups from reading books as you level? I haven't got a skill up from a book since the mid 30s and I stop by every single bookshelf I pass. Is this just bad RNG, or do we not get levels after a certain point?

Nasuradin_ESO · May 2014

I recall an older post mentioning that the books give a set amount of xp rather than an entire level, and once your skills are significantly high enough, you seem to not get any more when in actuality it was just very small amounts of xp, which was track-able with addons that show the xp bars on your UI without having to look through the menus

sociald100ub17_ESO · May 2014

I believe that there is a finite amount of skill up , im sure of that really. and I think specific books give you specific skill ups, similar to how it worked in the single player elder scrolls game. So you may have gotten all of them possibly. I haven't gotten one in a long time either.

zaria · May 2014

You will see that you level up in low skills, as in skills you have never used more often while rarely in high skills something who points towards fixed xp.

I also find that entering an new zone give an lots of skill increases.
Do the new zones contains new books, I know it also contains old or is it just that the xp gain increases in a higher zone?

METALPUNKS · May 2014

Here's how it works and why you feel you haven't gotten any skill increase in awhile. Only certain skill books give skill increases, once you read that book you no longer will get an increase if you come across it again. So if you read a book called fight from oblivion that levels heavy armor you'll get a skill up, if you come across that book again you'll get nothing. Bookshelves also reset overtime, so going back to places with lots of bookshelves will have all new books but you may have already those.

Sharee · May 2014

From my experience:

There is a pool of skillbooks you can potentially find at a certain level range. Once you find them all, you won't get any more skill increases from books until you level up into the next tier.

So for example, there are 19 skill books that increase one skill line each (4 class[each increases all 3 class skills at once]+6 weapon+3 armor+ 6 crafting) for levels 1-10. When you hit level 11, you will start finding another set of 19 books. And another when you hit level 30. Etc. etc.

This is my understanding of how it works based on my experience in-game, no guarantees(in particular, that there is a skill book for every skill at every tier is just a wild guess).

zaria · May 2014

@Sharee‌ that makes plenty sense.
Should be pretty easy to check if your skills get small increase reading books or level up.

TwistedRiddlesb14_ESO · May 2014

By the way, has anybody found any restoration staff books at all? I have not found a single one and I'm in my 30s.

mutharex · May 2014

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Here's how it works and why you feel you haven't gotten any skill increase in awhile. Only certain skill books give skill increases, once you read that book you no longer will get an increase if you come across it again. So if you read a book called fight from oblivion that levels heavy armor you'll get a skill up, if you come across that book again you'll get nothing. Bookshelves also reset overtime, so going back to places with lots of bookshelves will have all new books but you may have already those.

I got skill ups from particular books and after a while that same book gave me another skill up. I was actually wondering how it worked because of this

Tintifax · May 2014

I have the feeling the skill ups are not tied to specific books. I had found a certain book numerous times and then suddenly it gave me a skill up. I think you have a number of skill ups maybe per zone (maybe one for each skill or so) and if you get one is rolled when you open the book, irrespective of what the book is. If you've already got that skill up earlier you will get nothing.

nerevarine1138 · May 2014

Tintifax wrote: »

I have the feeling the skill ups are not tied to specific books. I had found a certain book numerous times and then suddenly it gave me a skill up. I think you have a number of skill ups maybe per zone (maybe one for each skill or so) and if you get one is rolled when you open the book, irrespective of what the book is. If you've already got that skill up earlier you will get nothing.

Skill-ups are tied to specific books, and there is no limit on how often books can level your skills (per zone or otherwise). If you believed you'd read that book on your character earlier, you were mistaken, or it was bugged.

Tintifax · May 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Tintifax wrote: »

I have the feeling the skill ups are not tied to specific books. I had found a certain book numerous times and then suddenly it gave me a skill up. I think you have a number of skill ups maybe per zone (maybe one for each skill or so) and if you get one is rolled when you open the book, irrespective of what the book is. If you've already got that skill up earlier you will get nothing.

Skill-ups are tied to specific books, and there is no limit on how often books can level your skills (per zone or otherwise). If you believed you'd read that book on your character earlier, you were mistaken, or it was bugged.

I was certainly not mistaken as it was that book with the number 2920 or so in the title, that's why I remembered it. But be it as it may, in the end it's not important which specific books gives you a skill up. Just that there seems to be a finite number of them and as you've gotten more the chances to find a new one go down.

Nazon_Katts · May 2014

"The Year 2920" has a couple of volumes, so you read two different books, actually.

nerevarine1138 · May 2014

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

"The Year 2920" has a couple of volumes, so you read two different books, actually.

Bingo.

Why would anyone ever believe that you could get multiple skill-ups from the same book?

Tintifax · May 2014

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

"The Year 2920" has a couple of volumes, so you read two different books, actually.

Ah, that could be it, as I've not really "read" the text (shame over me :-) ).

Neutronium_Dragon · May 2014

"2920" is a twelve-book series, one for each month of the year. It first showed up in TES3: Morrowind, I believe, and has been a skill bonanza from the very beginning.

sarnox · May 2014

Once you finish the mage's guild quest line you get an addendum to your lore book menu that lists all books, scrolls, pieces of paper, etc. in the game.

There is a section that says Skill Books, which contains 82 books.
From experience I can say that most skill lines can be upgraded 5 times and always grant exactly 1 level, regardless of your current exp of that skill line.

The reason people's addons see specific xp values, is because the book grants exactly the correct amount of xp to lvl up and bring the skill to the same % as it was in the prior level. This means that if you are dual wielding lvl 8 at 20%, the book will bring you to lvl 9 at 20%, and so on.

I have gained lvl ups in the 20s on a skill, which negates the theory of fixed xp amounts.

Whenever you enter an area with bookshelves, it randomly instances the books for you. Every 15min or so the books will reset and they also reset upon re-logging. Since there is a limited amount of books that grant skill-ups, the more skill-ups you've gained from books in a particular skill line, means that your chances of rolling the books (with skill-ups) that you haven't read yet diminish.

Some books give skill-ups to more than one skill.

Hope that helps. Also the Eidetic Memory is bugged, so it's hard to see which you haven't read yet. For me it's stuck at 0/82 permanently, but I'm sure I've read almost all by now.

TwistedRiddlesb14_ESO · May 2014

sarnox wrote: »

Once you finish the mage's guild quest line you get an addendum to your lore book menu that lists all books, scrolls, pieces of paper, etc. in the game.

There is a section that says Skill Books, which contains 82 books.
From experience I can say that most skill lines can be upgraded 5 times and always grant exactly 1 level, regardless of your current exp of that skill line.

The reason people's addons see specific xp values, is because the book grants exactly the correct amount of xp to lvl up and bring the skill to the same % as it was in the prior level. This means that if you are dual wielding lvl 8 at 20%, the book will bring you to lvl 9 at 20%, and so on.

I have gained lvl ups in the 20s on a skill, which negates the theory of fixed xp amounts.

Whenever you enter an area with bookshelves, it randomly instances the books for you. Every 15min or so the books will reset and they also reset upon re-logging. Since there is a limited amount of books that grant skill-ups, the more skill-ups you've gained from books in a particular skill line, means that your chances of rolling the books (with skill-ups) that you haven't read yet diminish.

Some books give skill-ups to more than one skill.

Hope that helps. Also the Eidetic Memory is bugged, so it's hard to see which you haven't read yet. For me it's stuck at 0/82 permanently, but I'm sure I've read almost all by now.

Oh my god, really? I mean... the first part about the addendum. Does it just give you the books you found or all of them? I was wondering about this, because I was really frustrated that I had no way to read all the books I was finding without spending hours sitting there in dungeons reading books where I might get attacked.

Sorpaijen_ESO · May 2014

There's an Add-On called "Librarian" that purports to "save" copies of the books you read so you can read them later at your leisure. I downloaded and installed it, but I got tired of being notified every time I picked up a note, so I turned off notifications (handy that) and I've never actually gone back to see if it does what it says it's doing... but it MAY work.