Crown Store / Merchant with guild store option: any chance?

DreamyLu · September 30

I have enough of followers in towns (especially those with flapping wings). No need to write a long complain about: I'm simply tired of them. It's - for me personally - a continuous annoyance. That was easy to ignore when I started in ESO, but that got on my nerves a tiny bit more every passing day and now it's a pain (worst being at bankers).

A while ago, when they announced the "hiding followers" option, I was soooo happy! Then it was implemented and the short radius of effect combined with the fact that it doesn't apply to all services (why not to bankers????) was - for me - a huge disappointement.

All that to ask: I'm not long enough in the game to know, but was it ever an open point to create a merchant for the crown shop who would have the guild store option? Or is there maybe already one and I failed to see it?

TaSheen · September 30

Not AFAIK. Each assistant does not have a "full toolbox" - and that seems to be intended. I believe the point is to allow the assistants functionality - outside of towns etc - without denuding the towns of characters (which would be the likely case if assistants had the full range of options).

It should be possible to find a banker which isn't as "busy" as most of them are - perhaps check the outlaw refuges? I almost never see anyone at the banker in Vivec's outlaw refuge for instance (and in fact, I can't even remember the last time I saw a matriarch in there). Caveat: I don't know positively that the outlaw refuge bankers have access to the guild bankers, because I don't deal with guilds other than Beam Me Up.

Ilumia · September 30

The outlaw refuge bankers do not have guild bank access or guild store access.

Second the op though, it would be great to be able to summon a banker with the guild bank function too.

barney2525 · September 30

I doubt it. No one would have any reason to visit their home Faction city. That would lose a bit of the flavor of the game. Can already do all your crafting/transmuting/mundus whatever at your Guild Hall.

ComboBreaker88 · September 30

What I'd like to see is the ability to purchase Guild Traders and place them in your home. Not "x" guild. Just the kiosks and whoever wins them, can have them in your house.

Make them a standard furniture item as well. So a player could potentially have all of them in their home.

*edit*

Make it so they cost 5,000 crowns each. Just like any other assistant.

baconaura · September 30

i believe if we get all functionality, the towns would be dead, as everyone could just be in their own house/guildhall without ever needing to visit towns.

DreamyLu · October 1

I'm not sure. Lot of players like to be in towns with many others around them. Also, all those who like to have followers and don't turn them off in towns will keep going there.

I believe that players like me, really annoyed by followers in towns, are a minority. So to be able to have a mobile guild trader or a guild trader in their home could be a nice solution for them but I don't think it would impact towns population.
From what I see, although the possibility to have crafting stations at home or at guild hall, towns are still very populated at crafting stations. I think it would be the same for with guild trader.

TaSheen · October 1

DreamyLu wrote: »

I'm not sure. Lot of players like to be in towns with many others around them. Also, all those who like to have followers and don't turn them off in towns will keep going there.

I believe that players like me, really annoyed by followers in towns, are a minority. So to be able to have a mobile guild trader or a guild trader in their home could be a nice solution for them but I don't think it would impact towns population.
From what I see, although the possibility to have crafting stations at home or at guild hall, towns are still very populated at crafting stations. I think it would be the same for with guild trader.

The reason there is that players still have to go to towns to pick up/deliver daily writs, even if they ultimately craft at home. I have all normal stations available on all my accounts in various houses - but the hassle of picking up writs in Vivec, transferring to house, crafting in house, transferring back to Vivec on several characters per account is just silly and wastes time I'd rather be doing other things with.

I honestly don't see ZOS changing this at all - they've said numerous times over the years that they don't have any interest in doing that.

Ingenon · October 1

DreamyLu wrote: »

All that to ask: I'm not long enough in the game to know, but was it ever an open point to create a merchant for the crown shop who would have the guild store option? Or is there maybe already one and I failed to see it?

There is no crown store character that allows guild store access.

All I can suggest is to find a zone in game that has lower population to do your banking. Vivec City is NOT that place. Fargrave, perhaps? The bank door is like two steps from the wayshrine.

Necrotech_Master · October 1

my understanding the reason why the banker assistant doesnt show a guild store option is for 2 reasons

1: is the "its a convenience item but not that much convenience", such as being unable to repair at the merchant assistant, or unable to refine at the decon assistant, or unable to use the armory assistant in certain content

2: i think it was done for technical reasons, the guild stores have a huge amount of data they have to load from the server (you access a guild with 1200 pages of listings, thats a lot of data to load), and they probably wanted to limit pulling this while say in instances such as delves, dungeons, houses, etc

AlnilamE · October 1

I never see sorc pets in Imperial City and the banker there is full-service.

No companions or assistants in IC either.

And ZOS said they would never make something from the crown store better than the in-game version, so the trade-off for the portability of assistants is that you miss out on some other feature.

DreamyLu · October 2

Thanks All for the information.

So it seems that my only hope is that soon or later, ZOS increase the radius of effect of the hiding followers feature and that they extend it to bankers... Am not so optimistic!

I have my toon parked in Vulkhel, because there everything is together (really everything), including the hideout. Maybe it's time to give up on comfort and search for a less populated place, even if it means that I don't have all there.

spartaxoxo · October 2

DreamyLu wrote: »

Thanks All for the information.

So it seems that my only hope is that soon or later, ZOS increase the radius of effect of the hiding followers feature and that they extend it to bankers... Am not so optimistic!

I have my toon parked in Vulkhel, because there everything is together (really everything), including the hideout. Maybe it's time to give up on comfort and search for a less populated place, even if it means that I don't have all there.

Try Velyn Harbor. You need to do a quest to get the services unlocked, so a lot of people don't bother with it.

TaSheen · October 2

spartaxoxo wrote: »

DreamyLu wrote: »

Thanks All for the information.

So it seems that my only hope is that soon or later, ZOS increase the radius of effect of the hiding followers feature and that they extend it to bankers... Am not so optimistic!

I have my toon parked in Vulkhel, because there everything is together (really everything), including the hideout. Maybe it's time to give up on comfort and search for a less populated place, even if it means that I don't have all there.

Try Velyn Harbor. You need to do a quest to get the services unlocked, so a lot of people don't bother with it.

Yeah, there's almost never anyone there at all. Maybe the single most deserted town anywhere!

DreamyLu · October 3

Thanks for that info, will check.

Edited for an add: Hmmm... Velyn isn't for me. It's quiet, yes, but has no daily writs givers and no crafters. It would mean to pick up the daily writs somewhere else and travel again elsewhere to craft (my home or another town)... Am too lazy for that!

But that's no worries. I will keep wandering a bit everywhere until I find a nice place. That's fun to do so.

spartaxoxo · October 3

DreamyLu wrote: »

Thanks for that info, will check.

Edited for an add: Hmmm... Velyn isn't for me. It's quiet, yes, but has no daily writs givers and no crafters. It would mean to pick up the daily writs somewhere else and travel again elsewhere to craft (my home or another town)... Am too lazy for that!

But that's no worries. I will keep wandering a bit everywhere until I find a nice place. That's fun to do so.

There is daily writ givers and crafters there. But if you haven't done the quest yet, the town is under siege so they aren't available.

DreamyLu · October 3

I didn't find them.

Place is fully safe with only green and white NPCs. There si no siege so I supposed I already did the quest or did I miss something?

I will go back again and check more carefully.

DreamyLu · October 3

Ok, sorry for double posting, but just to inform: Yes, everything is there. I apologize, I don't know how I checked and missed it when I was there earlier...

N00BxV1 · October 3

AlnilamE wrote: »

I never see sorc pets in Imperial City and the banker there is full-service.

No companions or assistants in IC either.

And ZOS said they would never make something from the crown store better than the in-game version, so the trade-off for the portability of assistants is that you miss out on some other feature.

But there are Crown Store items that's better than the in-game versions...

Crown Attribute Respecification Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a dedicated shrine and spend gold.
Crown Skill Respecification Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a dedicated shrine and spend gold.
Crown Riding Lesson Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a Stable and they have no cooldown, but the in-game Mount Training can only be done once per day and costs gold.
Crown Mimic Stones are better because they can be used for crafting ANY style, but there is no in-game equivalent to them.
Crown Research Scrolls are better because they reduce research times by 1/7/15 days and have no cooldown, but the in-game Research Scrolls only reduce research times by 1 day and have a 20 hour cooldown.
Crown Repair Kits are better because it only takes using one to instantly repair ALL equipped gear, but in-game Repair Kits have to be used on each piece of gear and one at a time. Crown Repair Kits have always been usable at any level, but in-game Repair Kits used to have specific level requirements (this was finally changed to be used at any level).
Crown Soul Gems have always been usable at any level, but the in-game Soul Gems also used to have specific level requirements (this was finally changed to be used at any level).
Crown Foods, Drinks, Potions and Poisons are better (compared to the in-game versions) because they can be used at any level and scale based on level, but the in-game versions require specific levels for the same type of items.
Crown XP Scrolls are better because they last longer and the in-game versions are expensive to craft. (Crown XP Scroll: 50% for 2 hours, Crown Gold Coast XP Scroll: 50% for 1 hour, Crown Major Gold Coast XP Scroll: 100% for 1 hour, Crown Grand Gold Coast XP Scroll: 150% for 1 hour) vs. (Psijic Ambrosia: 50% for 30 minutes, Aetherial Ambrosia: 100% for 30 minutes, Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia: 150% for 30 minutes). I've played ESO for 10 years and only ever found 1 Aetheric Cipher (required to make the recipe), 3 Aetherial Dust (required to combine with Psijic Ambrosia), and made a total of 12 Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia. But I've had a lot of Grand Gold Coast XP Scrolls from Crown Crates and Daily Rewards...
Crown Alliance War Skill Line Scrolls are also better because they last longer and the in-game versions are expensive to craft. (Crown Alliance War Scroll: 50% for 1 hour, Crown Major Alliance War Scroll: 100% for 1 hour, Crown Grand Alliance War Scroll: 150% for 1 hour) vs. (Colovian War Torte: 50% for 30 minutes, Molten War Torte: 100% for 30 minutes, White-Gold War Torte: 150% for 30 minutes).

These Crown Store Assistants ARE NOT CHEAP so they should have the same functionality as the in-game versions...

The Merchant should allow us to repair our gear.
The Banker should allow us to access our guild banks.
The Ragpicker should allow us to refine our materials.

Full stop.

DreamyLu · October 4

Sorry, I come back to subject: Velyn Harbor place.

I can't find neiter a jeweler crafting station nor an alchemy crafting station there. Are those two available there? If yes where?

Thank you

dlrgames · October 4

DreamyLu wrote: »

Sorry, I come back to subject: Velyn Harbor place.

I can't find neiter a jeweler crafting station nor an alchemy crafting station there. Are those two available there? If yes where?

Thank you

They are in the Mages Guild building

AlnilamE · October 5

N00BxV1 wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I never see sorc pets in Imperial City and the banker there is full-service.

No companions or assistants in IC either.

And ZOS said they would never make something from the crown store better than the in-game version, so the trade-off for the portability of assistants is that you miss out on some other feature.

But there are Crown Store items that's better than the in-game versions...
Crown Attribute Respecification Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a dedicated shrine and spend gold.

Crown Skill Respecification Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a dedicated shrine and spend gold.

Crown Riding Lesson Scrolls are better because they can be used from the inventory without having to go to a Stable and they have no cooldown, but the in-game Mount Training can only be done once per day and costs gold.

Crown Mimic Stones are better because they can be used for crafting ANY style, but there is no in-game equivalent to them.

Crown Research Scrolls are better because they reduce research times by 1/7/15 days and have no cooldown, but the in-game Research Scrolls only reduce research times by 1 day and have a 20 hour cooldown.

Crown Repair Kits are better because it only takes using one to instantly repair ALL equipped gear, but in-game Repair Kits have to be used on each piece of gear and one at a time. Crown Repair Kits have always been usable at any level, but in-game Repair Kits used to have specific level requirements (this was finally changed to be used at any level).

Crown Soul Gems have always been usable at any level, but the in-game Soul Gems also used to have specific level requirements (this was finally changed to be used at any level).

Crown Foods, Drinks, Potions and Poisons are better (compared to the in-game versions) because they can be used at any level and scale based on level, but the in-game versions require specific levels for the same type of items.

Crown XP Scrolls are better because they last longer and the in-game versions are expensive to craft. (Crown XP Scroll: 50% for 2 hours, Crown Gold Coast XP Scroll: 50% for 1 hour, Crown Major Gold Coast XP Scroll: 100% for 1 hour, Crown Grand Gold Coast XP Scroll: 150% for 1 hour) vs. (Psijic Ambrosia: 50% for 30 minutes, Aetherial Ambrosia: 100% for 30 minutes, Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia: 150% for 30 minutes). I've played ESO for 10 years and only ever found 1 Aetheric Cipher (required to make the recipe), 3 Aetherial Dust (required to combine with Psijic Ambrosia), and made a total of 12 Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia. But I've had a lot of Grand Gold Coast XP Scrolls from Crown Crates and Daily Rewards...

Crown Alliance War Skill Line Scrolls are also better because they last longer and the in-game versions are expensive to craft. (Crown Alliance War Scroll: 50% for 1 hour, Crown Major Alliance War Scroll: 100% for 1 hour, Crown Grand Alliance War Scroll: 150% for 1 hour) vs. (Colovian War Torte: 50% for 30 minutes, Molten War Torte: 100% for 30 minutes, White-Gold War Torte: 150% for 30 minutes).

Personally, I find all of the above pretty useless and would never spend actual crowns on them. It's already a bit of a nuisance to work through the ones we get from login rewards.