Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
so claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
Galeriano2 wrote: »Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Umm what?...
Azureblight recived multiple nerfs including to no longer work on players so how is any other adjustment of this set even remotely connected to PvP if set was pretty much disabled in PvP?
In reality this set was propably even stronger in PvE than it was in PvP and all numbers adjustments that happened to it are purely PvE related. Just look at Eso Logs, Azureblight is one of the most if not the most popular set atm. Even devs themselves started explanation withso claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »Galeriano2 wrote: »Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Umm what?...
Azureblight recived multiple nerfs including to no longer work on players so how is any other adjustment of this set even remotely connected to PvP if set was pretty much disabled in PvP?
In reality this set was propably even stronger in PvE than it was in PvP and all numbers adjustments that happened to it are purely PvE related. Just look at Eso Logs, Azureblight is one of the most if not the most popular set atm. Even devs themselves started explanation withso claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
This take is completely inaccurate and just wrong. Azureblight is not a top set it was literally only used for trash packs in trials. ZOS saw people were completing the new trial too easily because of a niche set like azureblight that was never BIS. Funny how zos only nerf sets people complain about on the forums. Everybody complaining about a set being too OP is from pvpers so yes PvP plays a role in every set being nerfed. Actually ball groups are whining because that set was one of if not the only set besides plague break which was also nerfed because of PVP that it actually had the potential to kill ball groups. So yeah when people run around basically being invincible and suddenly their only weakness is X set. You can bet your ass they’re coming straight to the forums to cry about it and then poof. The set is nerfed. I mean we can do this all day and I show you just how many sets have been sent to the graveyard due to PvP.
I highly doubt you want to publicly be embarrassed though because you had a bad take with complete inaccurate and just false information.
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »“They made it unusable against players and still adjusted its function in PvE. That means that was a very conscious decision and uncoupled from PvP balancing. Just add 1 and 1 together. No reason to be rude to the guy pointing it out.
I don't like anything separating PvE and PvP balance, so I do not condone their change for the opposite reason, but you are just projecting.”
How does zos make it unusable in pvp and your logic is pvp has nothing to do with the set being nerfed ? That’s makes less sense than the other guy above. You admitted they killed it in PVP and then said PVP had nothing to do with the nerf.
Also btw every set that has been nerfed because of PVP is also weaker in pve so not really seeing your point trying to blame pve. Nobody is complaining about a niche set only viable for trash mobs. PVP literally whined on forums about the set and then it was nerfed. Yeah weird coincidence. Totally not been used in pve for the last 5 years or anything. Yeah totally nerfed because of pve. 😂
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »“They made it unusable against players and still adjusted its function in PvE. That means that was a very conscious decision and uncoupled from PvP balancing. Just add 1 and 1 together. No reason to be rude to the guy pointing it out.
I don't like anything separating PvE and PvP balance, so I do not condone their change for the opposite reason, but you are just projecting.”
How does zos make it unusable in pvp and your logic is pvp has nothing to do with the set being nerfed ? That’s makes less sense than the other guy above. You admitted they killed it in PVP and then said PVP had nothing to do with the nerf.
Also btw every set that has been nerfed because of PVP is also weaker in pve so not really seeing your point trying to blame pve. Nobody is complaining about a niche set only viable for trash mobs. PVP literally whined on forums about the set and then it was nerfed. Yeah weird coincidence. Totally not been used in pve for the last 5 years or anything. Yeah totally nerfed because of pve. 😂
They made the set not scale if used on players at all. Which already makes it completely worthless in PvP.
In addition to that they also nerfed the base damage of the set and increased the scaling. That part doesnt matter for PvP as its already unusable with the other change. So that part of the change was basically certainly directed at PvE.
But sure keep acting like everyone else is being stupid and like PvP players are to blame for everything
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »Galeriano2 wrote: »Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Umm what?...
Azureblight recived multiple nerfs including to no longer work on players so how is any other adjustment of this set even remotely connected to PvP if set was pretty much disabled in PvP?
In reality this set was propably even stronger in PvE than it was in PvP and all numbers adjustments that happened to it are purely PvE related. Just look at Eso Logs, Azureblight is one of the most if not the most popular set atm. Even devs themselves started explanation withso claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
This take is completely inaccurate and just wrong. Azureblight is not a top set it was literally only used for trash packs in trials. ZOS saw people were completing the new trial too easily because of a niche set like azureblight that was never BIS. Funny how zos only nerf sets people complain about on the forums. Everybody complaining about a set being too OP is from pvpers so yes PvP plays a role in every set being nerfed. Actually ball groups are whining because that set was one of if not the only set besides plague break which was also nerfed because of PVP that it actually had the potential to kill ball groups. So yeah when people run around basically being invincible and suddenly their only weakness is X set. You can bet your ass they’re coming straight to the forums to cry about it and then poof. The set is nerfed. I mean we can do this all day and I show you just how many sets have been sent to the graveyard due to PvP.
I highly doubt you want to publicly be embarrassed though because you had a bad take with complete inaccurate and just false information.
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »Galeriano2 wrote: »Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Umm what?...
Azureblight recived multiple nerfs including to no longer work on players so how is any other adjustment of this set even remotely connected to PvP if set was pretty much disabled in PvP?
In reality this set was propably even stronger in PvE than it was in PvP and all numbers adjustments that happened to it are purely PvE related. Just look at Eso Logs, Azureblight is one of the most if not the most popular set atm. Even devs themselves started explanation withso claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
This take is completely inaccurate and just wrong. Azureblight is not a top set it was literally only used for trash packs in trials. ZOS saw people were completing the new trial too easily because of a niche set like azureblight that was never BIS. Funny how zos only nerf sets people complain about on the forums. Everybody complaining about a set being too OP is from pvpers so yes PvP plays a role in every set being nerfed. Actually ball groups are whining because that set was one of if not the only set besides plague break which was also nerfed because of PVP that it actually had the potential to kill ball groups. So yeah when people run around basically being invincible and suddenly their only weakness is X set. You can bet your ass they’re coming straight to the forums to cry about it and then poof. The set is nerfed. I mean we can do this all day and I show you just how many sets have been sent to the graveyard due to PvP.
I highly doubt you want to publicly be embarrassed though because you had a bad take with complete inaccurate and just false information.
I am one who wishes azureblight hadn't been hit so hard for PvE but there is one thing you said that are just plain incorrect.
Azure wasn't only used on trash fights. While it was not used for every single boss like some people claimed in other posts, it was used on aoe or multi target boss fights pretty often, and was the meta for most bosses in Lucent Citadel and Sanity's Edge.
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »“They made it unusable against players and still adjusted its function in PvE. That means that was a very conscious decision and uncoupled from PvP balancing. Just add 1 and 1 together. No reason to be rude to the guy pointing it out.
I don't like anything separating PvE and PvP balance, so I do not condone their change for the opposite reason, but you are just projecting.”
How does zos make it unusable in pvp and your logic is pvp has nothing to do with the set being nerfed ? That’s makes less sense than the other guy above. You admitted they killed it in PVP and then said PVP had nothing to do with the nerf.
Also btw every set that has been nerfed because of PVP is also weaker in pve so not really seeing your point trying to blame pve. Nobody is complaining about a niche set only viable for trash mobs. PVP literally whined on forums about the set and then it was nerfed. Yeah weird coincidence. Totally not been used in pve for the last 5 years or anything. Yeah totally nerfed because of pve. 😂
They made the set not scale if used on players at all. Which already makes it completely worthless in PvP.
In addition to that they also nerfed the base damage of the set and increased the scaling. That part doesnt matter for PvP as its already unusable with the other change. So that part of the change was basically certainly directed at PvE.
But sure keep acting like everyone else is being stupid and like PvP players are to blame for everything
I don’t think anyone is stupid just not in touch with the game. That’s not very nice nor do I look down on anyone. The set was only nerfed after pvp complained about it killing their ball groups. So yes it also was nerfed in pve just like every other set before it due to it being used in PvP so just like their protocol with every other set that has been nerfed it effects pve as well. But zos in a nutshell has no reason to nerf a niche set to begin with. It wasn’t BiS and with the new update is now completely worthless not even useable. That’s my issue and it’s with zos not the players even if they did bring attention to it.
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »Galeriano2 wrote: »Dax_Draconis wrote: »I'm really tired of it. I spent hours farming for Azureblight and a couple days later a thread popped up in General Discussions complaining about it being unfair in the new battlegrounds in the next update and then it was quickly ruined on the PTS a couple days later. I'm just glad I didn't have a chance to make any of the gear in the proper traits.
It just doesn't seem worth it to me to farm any sets for PvE anymore since PvP complaints will just get the set ruined.
Umm what?...
Azureblight recived multiple nerfs including to no longer work on players so how is any other adjustment of this set even remotely connected to PvP if set was pretty much disabled in PvP?
In reality this set was propably even stronger in PvE than it was in PvP and all numbers adjustments that happened to it are purely PvE related. Just look at Eso Logs, Azureblight is one of the most if not the most popular set atm. Even devs themselves started explanation withso claiming that this is somehow a purely PvP related nerf is a bit sillyAzureblight has been dominating the PvE and PvP scene in many cases for a while
This take is completely inaccurate and just wrong. Azureblight is not a top set it was literally only used for trash packs in trials. ZOS saw people were completing the new trial too easily because of a niche set like azureblight that was never BIS. Funny how zos only nerf sets people complain about on the forums. Everybody complaining about a set being too OP is from pvpers so yes PvP plays a role in every set being nerfed. Actually ball groups are whining because that set was one of if not the only set besides plague break which was also nerfed because of PVP that it actually had the potential to kill ball groups. So yeah when people run around basically being invincible and suddenly their only weakness is X set. You can bet your ass they’re coming straight to the forums to cry about it and then poof. The set is nerfed. I mean we can do this all day and I show you just how many sets have been sent to the graveyard due to PvP.
I highly doubt you want to publicly be embarrassed though because you had a bad take with complete inaccurate and just false information.
I am one who wishes azureblight hadn't been hit so hard for PvE but there is one thing you said that are just plain incorrect.
Azure wasn't only used on trash fights. While it was not used for every single boss like some people claimed in other posts, it was used on aoe or multi target boss fights pretty often, and was the meta for most bosses in Lucent Citadel and Sanity's Edge.
Not to try and discredit you but those are still not enough pieces of content for the set to still not fall under a niche condition for it to be considered BIS. While I will bite my tongue and say it could’ve been toned down but zos doesn’t tone down anything. They utterly and completely killed the set entirely.
KromedeTheCorrupt wrote: »“
They made it unusable against players and still adjusted its function in PvE. That means that was a very conscious decision and uncoupled from PvP balancing. Just add 1 and 1 together. No reason to be rude to the guy pointing it out.
I don't like anything separating PvE and PvP balance, so I do not condone their change for the opposite reason, but you are just projecting.”
How does zos make it unusable in pvp and your logic is pvp has nothing to do with the set being nerfed ? That’s makes less sense than the other guy above. You admitted they killed it in PVP and then said PVP had nothing to do with the nerf.
Also btw every set that has been nerfed because of PVP is also weaker in pve so not really seeing your point trying to blame pve. Nobody is complaining about a niche set only viable for trash mobs. PVP literally whined on forums about the set and then it was nerfed. Yeah weird coincidence. Totally not been used in pve for the last 5 years or anything. Yeah totally nerfed because of pve. 😂