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Minotaur Polymorph (Poll)

Aggrovious
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We need an actual minotaur sound, but instead we get a short "marrrr". Where is the blood thirsty screech/rawr we hear from minotaurs? I request the community to rise up and tell ZOS to adjust this. If they can change Molag's polymorph, they can change this sorry sounding minotaur. Vote in the poll...
Edited by Aggrovious on September 13, 2024 1:17AM
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Minotaur Polymorph (Poll) 36 votes

Make the minotaur sound better
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Doesn't need to be changed
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c4bloyb16_ESOSkaiFaithPDarkBHood 3 votes
You spent how much for this polymorph?
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  • LunaFlora
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    Make the minotaur sound better
    i like the current sound enough, but more would be nice
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  • JimT722
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    Make the minotaur sound better
    The iron atronach polymorph had a glaring mesh hole that was pointed out when released. it is still there. I think it's unlikely they will make any changes to something they released unless it's completely broken.

    I think the minotaur is really good, though. it looks nice. While I would be for some small tweaks like voice or hand/feet size I just can't see it happening.
    Edited by JimT722 on September 13, 2024 3:26AM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    1st thing they should do is to fix this polymorph as it is causing issues with Werewolf (and I would imagine other transformation ulties too). Basically if you have Minotaur Polymorph equipped & you use WW ulti, this happens:
    1. WW Transformation ulti animation is not played. You just hear the sound effect of the WW transformation and are stuck for the duration of "lack of animation".
    2. Once transformed, you can use WW normally, although I have seen some ww skill animation to occasionally look wierd & not play properly.
    3. Once you cancel the ulti or wait for the WW timer to run out (revert back to human), at 1st glance... nothing happens. You are still a Werewolf. But the game considers you not a Werewolf, but you still have Werewolf visual model, animation set and skill bar. This means that all you can do is to walk, run, jump, light & heavy attack. Everything else is locked & you can not use WW skills (since you are not a ww) and you can not use regular skills (since you have WW skill bar & can not slot regular skills & your character is using ww animation set).

    This "ghost werewolf" state persists till you change zone (teleport to your home for example).

    If zos won't fix it, they should at the very least add some warning disclaimer to the Minotaur Polymorph. And yes - preventing the use of WW ulti while having Minotaur Polymorph equipped is not a solution...
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on September 13, 2024 9:03AM
  • Aggrovious
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    Make the minotaur sound better
    1st thing they should do is to fix this polymorph as it is causing issues with Werewolf (and I would imagine other transformation ulties too). Basically if you have Minotaur Polymorph equipped & you use WW ulti, this happens:
    1. WW Transformation ulti animation is not played. You just hear the sound effect of the WW transformation and are stuck for the duration of "lack of animation".
    2. Once transformed, you can use WW normally, although I have seen some ww skill animation to occasionally look wierd & not play properly.
    3. Once you cancel the ulti or wait for the WW timer to run out (revert back to human), at 1st glance... nothing happens. You are still a Werewolf. But the game considers you not a Werewolf, but you still have Werewolf visual model, animation set and skill bar. This means that all you can do is to walk, run, jump, light & heavy attack. Everything else is locked & you can not use WW skills (since you are not a ww) and you can not use regular skills (since you have WW skill bar & can not slot regular skills & your character is using ww animation set).

    This "ghost werewolf" state persists till you change zone (teleport to your home for example).

    If zos won't fix it, they should at the very least add some warning disclaimer to the Minotaur Polymorph. And yes - preventing the use of WW ulti while having Minotaur Polymorph equipped is not a solution...

    This is tragic news to hear! ZOS needs to fix the ghost issues with animations. I still have issues using power overload and have a awkward delay before I can heavy attack or use abilities.

    Overall, this polymorph needs to be patched. They could adjust the sound also and that would be pretty cool...
    Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.
  • ZOS_Kevin
    ZOS_Kevin
    Community Manager
    1st thing they should do is to fix this polymorph as it is causing issues with Werewolf (and I would imagine other transformation ulties too). Basically if you have Minotaur Polymorph equipped & you use WW ulti, this happens:
    1. WW Transformation ulti animation is not played. You just hear the sound effect of the WW transformation and are stuck for the duration of "lack of animation".
    2. Once transformed, you can use WW normally, although I have seen some ww skill animation to occasionally look wierd & not play properly.
    3. Once you cancel the ulti or wait for the WW timer to run out (revert back to human), at 1st glance... nothing happens. You are still a Werewolf. But the game considers you not a Werewolf, but you still have Werewolf visual model, animation set and skill bar. This means that all you can do is to walk, run, jump, light & heavy attack. Everything else is locked & you can not use WW skills (since you are not a ww) and you can not use regular skills (since you have WW skill bar & can not slot regular skills & your character is using ww animation set).

    This "ghost werewolf" state persists till you change zone (teleport to your home for example).

    If zos won't fix it, they should at the very least add some warning disclaimer to the Minotaur Polymorph. And yes - preventing the use of WW ulti while having Minotaur Polymorph equipped is not a solution...

    Hi @Tommy_The_Gun! Would you be able to get a video of the issues happening? We tried to reproduce the issues on our end and did not see this. Getting any additional context could help us identify where the issue might be. Thanks!
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    I tried to replicate it myself, but could not. Originally, It happened during soloing Banished Cells I Dungeon, during fight with a Shadowrend Boss. I tried to replicate it, but could not. I even tried to use WW ulti & then go into collections & disable Minotaur Polymorph... and it all worked as it should.

    I suspect that what could have happened is that Shadowrend boss has a stun cc, and what could happened is I was CC-ed precisely in a moment when I pressed WW ulti button. I have had that happened before - that mob or boss sourced CC, like fear or knockback or stun would "glitch" WW ulti transformation. It was never that serious though. So it is possible that it may have nothing to do with Minotaur Polymorph. All I know is that when it happened, transformation animation glitched out (did not played at all) and *poof* Mino model was swapped with WW model, but (as I have described) nothing worked & I had to change zones so that it would fix itself.

    It could have been random glitch, since I tried to replicate it, but I could not. I was not touching Mino Poly & WW since I was afraid it may glitch out again, but since you said that you could not replicate it, I gave it a shoot & also could not. Weird bug and as I said before, I suspect it has more to do with being CC-ed by a npc/mob/boss at the right moment when you hit WW transformation ulti.

    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on September 13, 2024 11:24PM
  • SkaiFaith
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    Doesn't need to be changed
    Molag poly got changed, true...and people are not happy of the result.
    You sure you wanna risk?
    I'm definitely ok with how it is now - sounds can "get on nerves", become annoying, so I would avoid taking the risk of ruining the poly.
    If the moaning would become excessive it would make you want to turn off volume or effects. No good.
    Edited by SkaiFaith on September 14, 2024 7:05AM
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  • VouxeTheMinotaur
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    Make the minotaur sound better
    i would also like to see some audio changes to the polymorph, i noticed it doesn't make much of a peep with the beast personality, and rarely much with the drunk or heroic. all sounding much like you had said.

    and if i could add in, I'd also like to see the hooves juuuuuustttt a bit bigger, the polymorph audio did excellent with the footstep audio. visually though, the creature looks like hes walking on "wooden stumps" or peg legs.

    it would be nice to have just a bit more spread and widening on the hooves. i understand this is not Morihaus or Domihaus but just a little nudge in their direction would be *chef's kiss*
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  • Thee_Cheshire_Cat
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    You spent how much for this polymorph?
    i just wish it looked like the minotaurs in game, build wise. Not the scary half-breed thing it seems to be now.
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