Well, the ability to do things in the wrong order also manifests itself with the whole Morrowind - Clockwork - Summerset chain... Although Summerset has a bit of a retcon regarding the identity of one of its major antagonists if you haven't done a certain quest line in Morrowind: but you can still do things in what's very much the wrong order, foiling a Daedric plot in Summerset only to see it start in Vvardenfell, and god only knows what happens if you mix the Clockwork storyline into the mix as well.

And don't even get me started on the Prologue quests, which are ALL (from Morrowind onwards) entirely possible to not do them until after completing the zone to which they are technically a prologue.

Honestly I think the main storyline quest of each zone should be locked behind completing the prologue quest.

Absolutely not worth buying. I was unable to kill Vaermina in Necrom which means I cannot complete last main quest which mean I was a complete fool to buy Gold Road if finshing on chapter was nececessary tp finish Gold Road. which I cannot finish either.


A casual player ought to be able to finish the main quest even if they have to work at it in stages. Vaermina resetting every time you die made it impossible for me to do alone.


It showed me that spending anymore money on this game was futile.

To be honest, on paper the chapter was dope! Playing it, revealed that it had a lot of disappointments in store. At least for me.

So what did disappoint me?

That Ithelia felt like she and her concept were rushed and in some ways somewhat contradicting existing lore.

I did not like the power scaling between her and me. I also did not like the multiverse thing, at least not the way it was implemented. I did not like that she took some places that belonged to other deadric princes in the Aylied culture. And I did not like her ending. Her entire mirror and prince of paths concept felt somewhat lacking. I feel she had needed more time on the drawing board. And more consideration for existing lore and concepts.

Also in regards to the art department. Her in game model was inconsistent with her Cinematic trailer and the in game model also felt somewhat out of place in the TES universe. It also did not help that her Daedra did not share her style. She somewhat locked like California girl that is abusing substances (referring to her strange eyes) and has some strange wings. With the wings being the only thing that visually connects her to her Deadra. Her humanoid form does not resemble any race I have seen within the TES universe. Any why did she look human? The Elves look down on humans yet she as a deadric Prince, a god they pray to, looks like a lower race? That does not add up sorry.

As mentioned I feel Ithelia needed more time at the drawing board, both on the visual and lore side. Sorry to say so but I had high hopes and expectations for her.

The Aylieds are the second disappointment.
I wanted an Aylied themed chapter for a long time! But this was not what I wanted.

On the lore side I felt that Ithelia being the only Deadra of note to the Aylieds seemed wrong! We have the Deadric shrines of Meridia and Sanguine in the zone. Them not having a part in Aylied culture here seems so wrong to me! Also having the entire jungle growth based on Ithelias power and not on Aylied magic was kind of disappointing.

Also having ancient Aylied ruins that have appeared in TES 4 in the chapter makes it mandatory that these ruins resemble the original. At least in basic layout of the interior and furniture that is seed within! If you make additions like additional rooms hallways and furniture, please go crazy! Make something awesome! But please do not change existing locations, that are suposed to exist like that hundreds of years later! The Aylieds are extinct and can not remodel these locations anymore.

That leads me to another problem. The new additions to the Aylied style with furniture and structural parts. Sadly some of the asserts did not take the necessary care to align with previous style conventions. The curved elegant design that was also prevalent in Altmer styled was sadly lost in some cases. We got some rather block looking stuff and some rather strange stuff. But I have to say that the texturing team did it's best to hit the mark on the iconography! Thank you texturing team! Just the modeling and most likely the concept art team messed up in some cases. I am not an artist so I have a hard time to point out exactly what needed to be different for me to like and praise it. But by comparison we had a few additions during the Blackwood chapter and they felt like they belonged without standing out. I welcome additions but I want the to be consistent with what came before!

I personally did not need any Bosmer in this chapter. I understand that from a lore point it makes sense to have them claim the heritage of the Aylieds that fled to Valenwood. However these aylied Bosmer did not exactly feel so much different from any normal Bosmer. They did not give me the "Hey we are Aylied descendants!" vibe they needed. We had the Earthbone Aylied style we got recently. I remember complaining that felt way to much like Bosmer instead of Aylied! Why was that not used for them? Or why did we not get a new ancient Aylied gear style that was used by at least some of them?

Why did we not get other cultural insight into the Aylieds? We had so many light concentrating things in the new Aylied ruins, so why did we not get some nice insights into Aylied magic? Why were the new aylied trees not more in the center of attention. They locked interesting, but unless I missed something they were not explained at all.

Then we had the scribing quest line.
It was advertised as a magical adventure to dive into ancient magic. Well... It was a rather grindy quest line that reused so much poorly aged base game locations and world activity's within a quest constructed around some wanna be wise magical creatures... Well it completely lost and disappointed me. Sorry to say so.

For the scribing system itself... well I need ink to use it and I don't get any in the quantity's needed to actually try it out and experiment with it. That is so sad.

I also had a problem with the scaling of the Skingrad houses. It felt off and way to big in many cases. I know 3rd person camera MMORPG. But it is still bugging me.

You know it might be a nitpick but I wanted a vineyard so bad! One with a nice few on Skingrad and some Aylied ruins! I got the vineyard! But it is lacking a nice few!

I have more smaller things to complain about, but I'll leave it at that for the moment.

But since I'd like to end on a positive note, let me tell you what I did like!

• As for the regular Bosmer we did get some nice quests and some awesome new asserts.
• I liked a lot of the imperial additions, especially structural stuff that resembles TES4 asserts and the inclusion of Sutch
• The zone was (the jungle and the scourged part that I did not need aside) absolutely beautiful. I had loved to get more that that vibrant autumn west wheeled zone!
• I also loved the 12 player raid get got with the chapter. Going in on veteran mode completely blind, was one of the most fun raid experiences I had in years! Thanks a lot for this fun and awesome raid! Awesome art design, awesome encounter design and mechanics that were good to reed as well as some new ideas that made it feel fresh! Thank you!

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Displaced_Salad wrote: »

After the disaster (for me game play wise) that was High Isle, I gave up spending even the minimum on the game. It was really the nail in the coffin and nothing has happened since then to change my mind.

I honestly thought that High Isle was head and shoulders better than Necrom and Gold Road. Getting away from yet another word ending dedric prince quest line was refreshing. Which just shows that different people have different tastes and desires.

Me too. My favorite place, and Galen is wonderful.

Necrom story was the most bored I've been in this game ever.

The story I've enjoyed the most was craglorn with mad celestial stars, fighting it out. Loved it.