kargen27 wrote: »

I know it isn't what you are looking for but because the answer from ZoS is likely to be no on more character slots for a good while you might consider a 2nd account. Or if the NA server is your main start some characters on the EU server.

Actually, the second account on the same server would be better if feeding the results of dungeoneering to the main account was part of the plan.

I'm just annoyed that I have three characters of each class, traditionally to make a dps, healer and tank of each class. But for some reason they stopped this after releasing Arcanist, now I'm stuck with only two arcanists and three of everything else.

At least let us get one more slot to round it out.

We only need seven to eight toons now with account wide achievements. And that's only if you want to have one toon of every class, plus a dedicated healer and dedicated tank. Maybe one or two more toons as dedicated mules, so I guess up to 10 toons are plenty enough now days. Just level them all in all skills and use the armory to swap gears and attributes in a few seconds if you want to change something up with any given toon.

I used to have 20 toons fully leveled, but I deleted two, and I only play about 3 of the 18 with any kind of regularity now after account wide achievements. Now if you've done it once on one toon every toon gets credit, so way less play time is required.

JustLovely wrote: »

We only need seven to eight toons now with account wide achievements. And that's only if you want to have one toon of every class, plus a dedicated healer and dedicated tank. Maybe one or two more toons as dedicated mules, so I guess up to 10 toons are plenty enough now days. Just level them all in all skills and use the armory to swap gears and attributes in a few seconds if you want to change something up with any given toon.

I used to have 20 toons fully leveled, but I deleted two, and I only play about 3 of the 18 with any kind of regularity now after account wide achievements. Now if you've done it once on one toon every toon gets credit, so way less play time is required.

Not everyone plays this way. You may only "need" seven or eight toons, but that isn't the case for others. ESO is an RPG, and many people like creating new characters with a different appearance and back story to replay the game. Account wide achievements and the number of classes available doesn't factor in at all. They enjoy having many characters, and play them all.

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

JustLovely wrote: »

We only need seven to eight toons now with account wide achievements. And that's only if you want to have one toon of every class, plus a dedicated healer and dedicated tank. Maybe one or two more toons as dedicated mules, so I guess up to 10 toons are plenty enough now days. Just level them all in all skills and use the armory to swap gears and attributes in a few seconds if you want to change something up with any given toon.

I used to have 20 toons fully leveled, but I deleted two, and I only play about 3 of the 18 with any kind of regularity now after account wide achievements. Now if you've done it once on one toon every toon gets credit, so way less play time is required.

Not everyone plays this way. You may only "need" seven or eight toons, but that isn't the case for others. ESO is an RPG, and many people like creating new characters with a different appearance and back story to replay the game. Account wide achievements and the number of classes available doesn't factor in at all. They enjoy having many characters, and play them all.

Actually, Account Wide Achievements hinders this, to a certain degree. It makes it so you are unable to really replay the game. To really replay the game, you really need a new account, or play in the other geography.

Edit: spelling

Elsonso wrote: »

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

JustLovely wrote: »

We only need seven to eight toons now with account wide achievements. And that's only if you want to have one toon of every class, plus a dedicated healer and dedicated tank. Maybe one or two more toons as dedicated mules, so I guess up to 10 toons are plenty enough now days. Just level them all in all skills and use the armory to swap gears and attributes in a few seconds if you want to change something up with any given toon.

I used to have 20 toons fully leveled, but I deleted two, and I only play about 3 of the 18 with any kind of regularity now after account wide achievements. Now if you've done it once on one toon every toon gets credit, so way less play time is required.

Not everyone plays this way. You may only "need" seven or eight toons, but that isn't the case for others. ESO is an RPG, and many people like creating new characters with a different appearance and back story to replay the game. Account wide achievements and the number of classes available doesn't factor in at all. They enjoy having many characters, and play them all.

Actually, Account Wide Achievements hinders this, to a certain degree. It makes it so you are unable to really replay the game. To really replay the game, you really need a new account, or play in the other geography.

Edit: spelling

If gaining achievements is your goal, then sure. I thought like this too, at the beginning of AWA. I still despise AWA. However, getting achievements is a separate thing, in my mind, than enjoying a new character- I don't need to re-do the trophy achievements 20 times to enjoy replaying questing content, after all.

I think there's a big difference in a type of playstyle that revolves around needing the guidance of achievements, or wanting to re-do difficult achievements, v.s. a type of playstyle that just wants to enjoy the quests again. Both are totally valid.

Don't get me wrong, it annoys me to no end that I can't track achievements on a per-character basis any more unless I do it myself, but I also don't consider the achievement system a nessicary factor any more (for me- others will feel differently) and would rather just enjoy my characters on my main account.

Schwindlig wrote: »

I've been playing on and off for years, and am now at the point where I would like to be able to purchase some more character slots. In recent months I've really been enjoying spending time doing daily dungeons on low level tanks and healers and ideally would like to have 10 characters able to do this, whilst still having a broad selection of high level characters for other content. So could we have 30 slots per account rather than the current 20? Thank you.

To be honest, I thought that this was a joke post.

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Actually, Account Wide Achievements hinders this, to a certain degree. It makes it so you are unable to really replay the game. To really replay the game, you really need a new account, or play in the other geography.

If gaining achievements is your goal, then sure. I thought like this too, at the beginning of AWA. I still despise AWA. However, getting achievements is a separate thing, in my mind, than enjoying a new character- I don't need to re-do the trophy achievements 20 times to enjoy replaying questing content, after all.

I think there's a big difference in a type of playstyle that revolves around needing the guidance of achievements, or wanting to re-do difficult achievements, v.s. a type of playstyle that just wants to enjoy the quests again. Both are totally valid.

Don't get me wrong, it annoys me to no end that I can't track achievements on a per-character basis any more unless I do it myself, but I also don't consider the achievement system a nessicary factor any more (for me- others will feel differently) and would rather just enjoy my characters on my main account.

As I stated back when this debacle dropped, the achievements were part of the character's journey through the game. I really don't care about my journey through the game because, if the game is good, I will do it more than once. With AwA it is more work to keep track of what has been done, and what has not, across the entire game when I do. It gives me brain pain, so I limit myself to one "forever" character per server, which I have discovered is optimal for this game. Enhanced character-based monetization, like Armory Slots and Outfit Slots, are now account-wide, as there is only one character that will ever need them.

As a bonus, because my alts are temporary and usually for the purpose of getting transmutes from low level random daily dungeons, I never need more than the base game character slots. Before AwA, I was pushing the base game limits with way too many different characters. The majority of these have been "graduated" or "retired". My new alts are "graduated" before they get to Level 50.

The path to more slots through the purchase of an account is a monetization path that pretty much eclipses adding additional slots to existing characters. While adding character slots to an existing account is more "database friendly" than adding an entirely new account, if they can make more money doing a new account, I suppose it could be worth it.

Honestly, though, I have to think that the number of players that need more slots for their existing accounts is less than 1% of the active players. I have nothing to back that up, other than a comment made a few years back where they admitted that few players were using more than 2 slots. Might have been 1 slot. I can't remember the exact number, and that stream has been deleted, but it was a low number. Very low.

If there are 24 million registered accounts (Jan 2024), I would guess there is between 24 and 50 million characters out of the 480 million possible characters that could exist. Probably at the lower end of the range.

I had invested my current account time into a DE SORC crafter. As that was rendered useless by recent changes, I deleted it. When I eventually log back in, I will be starting again on something that is not a crafter.

With the collapse of crafting/trading if anyone has 20 chars, my total guess is that these will be players without ESO+, using most of them as storage mules.

The premise of 'I need 30 characters' denies that fact that, even playing 16 hours a day, you're not going to progress each individual character very far, ever. That's why I doubt highly that this was a serious request. Sure they may have 20 fully developed chars now, but really does anyone really play 20 chars? Maybe be a tiny subset...

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Maybe as an eso+ benefit? Can only create them while active. If you discontinu your membership, you are forced to lock some slot of character you have ove the limit. I think this would be an amazing bonus for eso+.

Other alternative, our account get a max of × character across na and eu. Creating more than 20(in present case) in either server would reduce the avaible slot on the other. If we go with current maximum, and i would create 28 on na, i would not be able to create more than 12 on eu.

That won't affect me ever. But you may have just made some enemies for life with those suggestions.

i would love to make more characters ^_^

sadly i doubt we get more until zos adds another class, race, or something else like that