why you can't disassemble mythics

garir_komes_molroy · July 20

Why can not disassemble mythics for crystals of kransmutation? If it is a mythic, then as an option, you can get not 25 for mythic but 15.

Monte_Cristo · July 20

I don't think you can disassemble anything for crystals, unless it was made with crystals to begin with.

Soarora · July 20

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

I don't think you can disassemble anything for crystals, unless it was made with crystals to begin with.

Even reconstructed mythics cannot be deconstructed.

Monte_Cristo · July 21

Soarora wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

I don't think you can disassemble anything for crystals, unless it was made with crystals to begin with.

Even reconstructed mythics cannot be deconstructed.

Really? Never tried, though. Must be something in the code that just hard blocks all mythics from all deconstruction.

virtus753 · July 21

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

I don't think you can disassemble anything for crystals, unless it was made with crystals to begin with.

Even reconstructed mythics cannot be deconstructed.

Really? Never tried, though. Must be something in the code that just hard blocks all mythics from all deconstruction.

Yes, it's been this way since the first applicable PTS, and it has normally not been possible. There was a period of time when it was possible (perhaps on console only), but it was fixed, which indicates it's intentional.

Araneae6537 · July 21

I wish that it were possible, as there are mythics I reconned but then it gets adjusted and it’s no longer useful to me — why shouldn’t I get the 25 crystals back? It’s not like people don’t have the option of reconning a set they’ve collected as a way to store 25 crystals so I don’t see why it shouldn’t be possible to get them back from reconned mythics.

Kisakee · July 21

virtus753 wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

I don't think you can disassemble anything for crystals, unless it was made with crystals to begin with.

Even reconstructed mythics cannot be deconstructed.

Really? Never tried, though. Must be something in the code that just hard blocks all mythics from all deconstruction.

Yes, it's been this way since the first applicable PTS, and it has normally not been possible. There was a period of time when it was possible (perhaps on console only), but it was fixed, which indicates it's intentional.

It has been possible on PC too to the point they ninja nerfed it. They never gave any comment on it at all.

ApoAlaia · July 21

Wild guess: as zero resources (beyond crystals) are required to reconstruct them they probably surmised that losing the crystals upon deconstruction would give players a sense of pride and accomplishment the items the illusion of value.

TaSheen · July 21

I'd be inclined to think in addition that they probably didn't want to introduce something else for players not paying attention and accidentally deconning a mythic then going to CS to get it returned.

Pevey · July 21

The OP is talking about reconstructed mythics.

I agree that we should be able to decon these to recover the transmutes, just like for other reconstructed items.

madman65 · July 21

Well if you think about the way ESO has the system setup, when you make a normal piece you will then have to upgrade it to the level you want. With the mythics, you just use transmutes and you have the exact same level you got when you scryed for it. I would have to say the coding and/or get mats back would concern ESO/ZOS, getting around that problem would be the question.

Araneae6537 · July 21

madman65 wrote: »

Well if you think about the way ESO has the system setup, when you make a normal piece you will then have to upgrade it to the level you want. With the mythics, you just use transmutes and you have the exact same level you got when you scryed for it. I would have to say the coding and/or get mats back would concern ESO/ZOS, getting around that problem would be the question.

There is no mythic level material though, so you shouldn’t get any materials, just the 25 transmutes that you spent.

virtus753 · July 21

Araneae6537 wrote: »

madman65 wrote: »

Well if you think about the way ESO has the system setup, when you make a normal piece you will then have to upgrade it to the level you want. With the mythics, you just use transmutes and you have the exact same level you got when you scryed for it. I would have to say the coding and/or get mats back would concern ESO/ZOS, getting around that problem would be the question.

There is no mythic level material though, so you shouldn’t get any materials, just the 25 transmutes that you spent.

This ^

Which is also what happens when you don’t upgrade a reconstructed piece beyond the default. I have a bunch of arena weapons reconstructed to serve as 25-crystal geodes. I only put in the crystals and never upgraded the pieces, so I will not get any other mats back on decon, but that’s fine. The fact that I can’t get any style, trait, or upgrade mat doesn’t interfere with the 25 crystals I’ll get when I decon them.

darvaria · July 21

For storage, pick like something like Earthgore. Something you have every piece. I use that to store transmutes.

Araneae6537 · July 21

darvaria wrote: »

For storage, pick like something like Earthgore. Something you have every piece. I use that to store transmutes.

Indeed, if one’s goal is to simply store transmutes, there are many options. But if one recons a mythic to use, like Malacth’s Band, but then it is nerfed to irrelevance, one would like the crystals back rather than having only the option to destroy what is no longer needed.

Deserrick · July 21

Taking a guess: they can’t program items to only be unlocked for deconstruction if they were reconstructed, they have to be set as locked or unlocked for deconstruction. If this guess is correct, then I also guess they don’t want mythics available for normal deconstruction because of the crafting materials, style materials, and upgrade materials that could be gained from them.

Araneae6537 · July 21

Deserrick wrote: »

Taking a guess: they can’t program items to only be unlocked for deconstruction if they were reconstructed, they have to be set as locked or unlocked for deconstruction. If this guess is correct, then I also guess they don’t want mythics available for normal deconstruction because of the crafting materials, style materials, and upgrade materials that could be gained from them.

But that should be nothing beyond the base material, just like there is no style material to be gained from deconstructing gear from the Infinite Archive. Gear only yields upgrade materials equal to its level and since there is no mythic/orange upgrade material, that would be nothing.

Soarora · July 21

Deserrick wrote: »

Taking a guess: they can’t program items to only be unlocked for deconstruction if they were reconstructed, they have to be set as locked or unlocked for deconstruction. If this guess is correct, then I also guess they don’t want mythics available for normal deconstruction because of the crafting materials, style materials, and upgrade materials that could be gained from them.

There's no style materials (unique styles) or upgrade materials (they're orange) for mythics. So, the most you'd get out of it is maybe some crafting materials.

oicero · July 21

I'm not after of any mats from mythics. I had made (reconstructed) some for my alts and now I'm not using them anymore. Down side they occupie inventory/vault slots for every one of each. So, at least can we please get decon option for transmute crystals?

Deserrick · July 22

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Deserrick wrote: »

Taking a guess: they can’t program items to only be unlocked for deconstruction if they were reconstructed, they have to be set as locked or unlocked for deconstruction. If this guess is correct, then I also guess they don’t want mythics available for normal deconstruction because of the crafting materials, style materials, and upgrade materials that could be gained from them.

But that should be nothing beyond the base material, just like there is no style material to be gained from deconstructing gear from the Infinite Archive. Gear only yields upgrade materials equal to its level and since there is no mythic/orange upgrade material, that would be nothing.

There shouldn't be, but who knows how it's programmed. Mythics have traits equal to the gold/legendary level, so perhaps deconstructing them would treat them as being at that level and thus have a chance of that level of material.