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Jumping should use up stamina
Alharion
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A 'leapfrog' player is unbearable to watch, so in the logic of an act of stamina, just as squatting consumes stamina, so jumping should be just as much a consumption of stamina.
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on June 20, 2024 7:19PM 7
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valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I like jumping, it helps me keep a rhythm in combat and avoid obstacles, as it's very easy to get caught on terrain in ESO. So in the logic of jumping strengthening my leg muscles and making me more athletic, anyone who doesn't jump regularly should move 25% slower and have 25% reduced stamina.
Ok ok, in all seriousness though - *if* zos somehow decides to make this change, please do it via battle spirit because it would be really annoying in pve, where jumping doesn't give any advantage or affect anyone else at all.Edited by valenwood_vegan on June 18, 2024 3:55AM3 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭no.miaow this is my forum signature! my name is Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
🦬🦌🐰
PlayStation EU is my primary server.
LunaFloraBlossom on PlayStation 5 and PC.
my main character is a Bosmer Warden named Greehnhart in-game, Greenie Florahart in full.
all characters on PS EU:- Luna Blossom, Bosmer Dragonknight.
- Dotty Greehnhart, Bosmer Sorcerer.
- Lía Greehnhart, Khajiit Nightblade.
- Lady Greehnhart, Altmer Templar. Lady is her name and title.
- Holly Blossom, Altmer Sorcerer.
- Sally Jadehart, Argonian Nightblade. Like a green salamander.
- Dorothy Pizzalover, Orc Warden. add pizzas to the game please.
- Greehnhart, Bosmer Warden.
- Lúcia Azurehart, imperial Necromancer. Azureblight, she has a Maarselok outfit.
- Bunny Rubyhart, Dunmer Nightblade.
- Wisteria Antheia, Khajiit Templar. blue hair like the wisteria.
- Cynthia Turquesa, Breton Warden.
- Rubyhart, Bosmer Nightblade.
- Hestia Rubyhart, Dunmer Dragonknight.
- Aurelia Cherryhart, Altmer Warden. Spriggan.
- Aurora Honey, Redguard Templar. Meridian cultist.
- Speaks-With-Blossom, Argonian Warden.
- Lulu Nightshade, Nord Necromancer.
- Lunetta Gleamblossom, Bosmer Arcanist. Ohmes Khajiit.
- Dianna Hyacinth, Altmer Arcanist. Maormer, water hyacinth.
Links to my Housing threads:Weapon Racks
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/692081/housing-request-weapon-racks-wishlist-with-pictures
Desks
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691313/housing-request-more-desk-furnishings-please
Orc
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/687765/wishlist-for-orcish-furnishings
Music control
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683673/request-for-housing-music-changer
Sanguine
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679400/housing-sanguine-furnishings-from-west-solstice-please
Statues
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691652/housing-statues-from-zones-as-furnishings-please
Links to my Fashion threads:Tassets and Loincloths
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650919/list-of-outfit-styles-without-tassets-and-loincloths-will-try-to-update
Outfit System refresh
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/690938/lunas-outfit-system-improvements-request-thread
Dye Stamps
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/688775/please-let-us-collect-the-dye-stamp-exclusive-dyes-outfit-system-request
Unavailable Styles
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/686841/please-release-all-unavailable-outfit-styles-for-outfits18 -
xylena_lazarow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭These threads are always the funniest side effect of a MagSorc meta.
The jumping does help a lot of players with their attack weave rhythm.PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas2 -
TybaltKaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭We've already had this thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/655086/why-does-jumping-not-cost-stamina/p1
Twice
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/651972/now-that-the-game-is-almost-ten-years-old-can-we-address-jumping-without-cost/p1- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
- PC/NA
- Guildmaster- Lucky Raven
- Knight of Marrow - Blackfeather Academy
- Adepti- The Witches Goblet
- "Nightblade healer huh? How does that work?"
- "I drain the blood of our enemies and fire it into you. It's a lot less messy than it sounds, and yeah I'm basically a Vampire without the whole AGH FIRE BAD"
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CameraBeardThePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Your logic for completely changing the balance of stamina sustain is because you're annoyed by how it looks? Good luck with that.8 -
Alharion✭✭✭CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Your logic for completely changing the balance of stamina sustain is because you're annoyed by how it looks? Good luck with that.
So why does walking while crouching need to consume stamina?Edited by Alharion on June 18, 2024 3:12PM1 -
valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Your logic for completely changing the balance of stamina sustain is because you're annoyed by how it looks? Good luck with that.
So why does walking while crouching need to consume stamina?
My complete guess as a player and not a designer of the game would be... because of stealth... an actual, significant advantage that it provides?Edited by valenwood_vegan on June 18, 2024 3:18PM5 -
CameraBeardThePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Your logic for completely changing the balance of stamina sustain is because you're annoyed by how it looks? Good luck with that.
So why does walking while crouching need to consume stamina?
Stealth provides an advantage. Jumping doesn't, it's just used by people to keep the rhythm of the global cooldown.Edited by CameraBeardThePirate on June 18, 2024 6:43PM0 -
tsaescishoeshiner✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When jumping, you don't get the benefit of your movement speed buffs. So it's already a bit of a nerf, in addition to not being able to change direction or roll-dodge mid nerf. Is it annoying that people are jumping in PvP, or is it giving them an unfair advantage?PC-NA
in-game: @tsaescishoeshiner0 -
divnyi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Am I missing something? Jumping brings no benefits and only downsides, you can't change direction of movement during jump, you have longer CC if you are caught mid-jump, the only legit application of jump is to jump over some obstacle to gain LoS / range break.1 -
DrNukenstein✭✭✭✭✭I've never met a hopper that isn't also a rude and toxic player. Stamina cost it out of the game, maybe they'll go play something else.1
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Just_Attivi✭✭✭✭✭DrNukenstein wrote: »I've never met a hopper that isn't also a rude and toxic player. Stamina cost it out of the game, maybe they'll go play something else.
What do you mean all hoppers are rude and toxic? I hop and Im not rude, I just want pancakes you (insert TOS acceptable insult slurry and random symbol swearing)
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I wanted to make a joke , but I cant stick the landing without moderators bopping me with a hammer. But at least I can make a jump pun.
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its okay, im disappointed with this comment too.0 -
SandandStars✭✭✭✭✭i dont care about jumping
but some players just disappear, again and again
i can shoot a projectile thats locked onto them, and ‘poof’ theyre gone and it misses
is this some kind of glitch?0 -
OldStygian✭✭✭✭I agree. Yes it should.
Bunny hopping is the pinnacle of stupid FPS gaminess and should be punished. Preferably with prejudice.2 -
Major_Toughness✭✭✭✭✭But they aren't bending their knees to jump, they are doing it from a standing position.
That's not a physical jump, that's magical.
Jumping should cost magicka.MAKE AZUREBLIGHT GREAT AGAIN
PC EU > You1 -
divnyi✭✭✭✭✭
✭SandandStars wrote: »i dont care about jumping
but some players just disappear, again and again
i can shoot a projectile thats locked onto them, and ‘poof’ theyre gone and it misses
is this some kind of glitch?
Nightblade invisibility?0 -
TybaltKaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cloaking doesn't make attacks miss after they have been fired at a visible enemy.- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
- PC/NA
- Guildmaster- Lucky Raven
- Knight of Marrow - Blackfeather Academy
- Adepti- The Witches Goblet
- "Nightblade healer huh? How does that work?"
- "I drain the blood of our enemies and fire it into you. It's a lot less messy than it sounds, and yeah I'm basically a Vampire without the whole AGH FIRE BAD"
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Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Jumping can actually give a lot of benefits in combat,
Doesn't slow momentum whilst blocking,
Lowers the effectiveness of roots
Distance & LoS
Better skill processing in lag
Sprint+ Direction change+Jump 'super jump' can actually increase speed / distance gains.
But I think it shouldn't have a cost associated - It's just an interesting part of gameplay.Edited by Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO on June 20, 2024 12:08PM@Solar_Breeze
NA ~ Izanerys: Dracarys (Videos | Dracast)
EU ~ Izanagi: Banana Squad (AOE Rats/ Zerg Squad / Roleplay Circle)0 -
CameraBeardThePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Jumping can actually give a lot of benefits in combat,
Doesn't slow momentum whilst blocking,
Lowers the effectiveness of roots
Distance & LoS
Better skill processing in lag
Sprint+ Direction change+Jump 'super jump' can actually increase speed / distance gains.
But I think it shouldn't have a cost associated - It's just an interesting part of gameplay.
Better skill processing in lag? That's just untrue lol. There is literally nothing to suggest that jumping would help you out when the server is choking.
The point about roots is really just tied to the first point - jumping carries your momentum. I'd wager only about 10% of players can even use it effectively like that. In regards to super jumps, even fewer players know how to do that consistently.
All of those points also have very little to do with the people that bunny hop, since all of those points require timed jumps. People that bunny hop (the people OP is strangely upset about) are only doing it for rhythm.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dbl postEdited by Joy_Division on June 20, 2024 3:07PMMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think there are higher prioritiesMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Major_Toughness wrote: »But they aren't bending their knees to jump, they are doing it from a standing position.
That's not a physical jump, that's magical.
Jumping should cost magicka.
i can jump without bending my kneesmiaow this is my forum signature! my name is Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
🦬🦌🐰
PlayStation EU is my primary server.
LunaFloraBlossom on PlayStation 5 and PC.
my main character is a Bosmer Warden named Greehnhart in-game, Greenie Florahart in full.
all characters on PS EU:- Luna Blossom, Bosmer Dragonknight.
- Dotty Greehnhart, Bosmer Sorcerer.
- Lía Greehnhart, Khajiit Nightblade.
- Lady Greehnhart, Altmer Templar. Lady is her name and title.
- Holly Blossom, Altmer Sorcerer.
- Sally Jadehart, Argonian Nightblade. Like a green salamander.
- Dorothy Pizzalover, Orc Warden. add pizzas to the game please.
- Greehnhart, Bosmer Warden.
- Lúcia Azurehart, imperial Necromancer. Azureblight, she has a Maarselok outfit.
- Bunny Rubyhart, Dunmer Nightblade.
- Wisteria Antheia, Khajiit Templar. blue hair like the wisteria.
- Cynthia Turquesa, Breton Warden.
- Rubyhart, Bosmer Nightblade.
- Hestia Rubyhart, Dunmer Dragonknight.
- Aurelia Cherryhart, Altmer Warden. Spriggan.
- Aurora Honey, Redguard Templar. Meridian cultist.
- Speaks-With-Blossom, Argonian Warden.
- Lulu Nightshade, Nord Necromancer.
- Lunetta Gleamblossom, Bosmer Arcanist. Ohmes Khajiit.
- Dianna Hyacinth, Altmer Arcanist. Maormer, water hyacinth.
Links to my Housing threads:Weapon Racks
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/692081/housing-request-weapon-racks-wishlist-with-pictures
Desks
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691313/housing-request-more-desk-furnishings-please
Orc
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/687765/wishlist-for-orcish-furnishings
Music control
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683673/request-for-housing-music-changer
Sanguine
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679400/housing-sanguine-furnishings-from-west-solstice-please
Statues
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691652/housing-statues-from-zones-as-furnishings-please
Links to my Fashion threads:Tassets and Loincloths
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650919/list-of-outfit-styles-without-tassets-and-loincloths-will-try-to-update
Outfit System refresh
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/690938/lunas-outfit-system-improvements-request-thread
Dye Stamps
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/688775/please-let-us-collect-the-dye-stamp-exclusive-dyes-outfit-system-request
Unavailable Styles
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/686841/please-release-all-unavailable-outfit-styles-for-outfits0 -
xylena_lazarow✭✭✭✭✭
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NB: I've never met a Sorc that wasn't toxic.DrNukenstein wrote: »I've never met a hopper that isn't also a rude and toxic player.
Sorc: I've never met a NB that wasn't toxic.PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas1 -
ZOS_HadeostrymodGreetings,
Because there is a thread already open on this topic, we're going to close this one down so that all feedback can be consolidated in one place.
You may continue the discussion here. Thank you for your understanding.0
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