Zergs and ballgroups dont die with the new scribing skills

olsborg · June 12

Aoe dmg shields coupled with aoe heals now with contingency skills and others are making pvp frustrating now. Groups spamming this dont die. It was hard enough already to kill the groups, now its near impossible.

SteveCampsOut · June 12

You thought Scribing was going to be a ZergBallBuster?!?!? Where did you get that idea? I mean seriously.

sayswhoto · June 12

team work makes the dream work

Tommy_The_Gun · June 12

I was saying that this will happen back when the stuff was on PTS. Stacking aoe group healing (like Vigor & Radiant regen) was an issue since like a year or two. It makes group play in PvP pretty much immortal. It has little to do with strategy, skill or group coordination.

So of course with Scribing update ZOS added another group heal so that now "Ball Groups" can stack 3 types of aoe healing. Idk what to say lol.

AnduinTryggva · June 12

Solution is simple. Introduce a heal and shield cap for PvP.

Tsuriel · June 12

I can understand it's usefulness in trials and endgame PvE content but it's completely unecessary for PvP. MMO's like Guild Wars 2 is already suffering a progressive decline from catering to ballgroups and unfortunately ESO will follow suit if ZOS keep ignoring these forms of gameplay.

moderatelyfatman · June 12

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Solution is simple. Introduce a heal and shield cap for PvP.

Not a cap, just don't allow damage shields and the same healing effect (e.g. Echoing vigor x 10) to stack. Problem solved.

BlueRaven · June 12

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

You thought Scribing was going to be a ZergBallBuster?!?!? Where did you get that idea? I mean seriously.

No, I think they are saying that scribing made them worse.

xylena_lazarow · June 12

Don't worry, they'll fix it with more ranged burst procs and NB buffs!

ssewallb14_ESO · June 12

When I saw the value of the group shields on PTS I thought they were placeholders lol. Ulfsild's is nearly double what Igneous Shield was pre-nerf.

They'll pretty much have to be nerfed, but PvP's gonna be rough for a patch or so.

Desiato · June 12

As predicted by many.

Unfortunately, PVP is an afterthought to ZOS. They have PVE focused combat goals and obviously don't care about how that impacts Cyrodiil and PVP in general.

A long time ago, I was a PVP focused player and that was incredibly frustrating. I would never do it again. You're basically a 2nd or 20th class customer.

runa_gate · June 12

you can make a grimoire that dispels one damage shield
the fact that everyone uses the same brawler builds is part of the problem but the problem has been the same for 9 years
ban everyone who consciously makes HoT balls to cause lag, problem solved

Photosniper89 · June 12

Tsuriel wrote: »

I can understand it's usefulness in trials and endgame PvE content but it's completely unecessary for PvP. MMO's like Guild Wars 2 is already suffering a progressive decline from catering to ballgroups and unfortunately ESO will follow suit if ZOS keep ignoring these forms of gameplay.

They aren't ignoring this. They have made SOOOOOOO many sets that were targeted to hurting ball groups. The problem is... a coordinated group.. in coms... that spends literally hours after hours working on a group comp.. reviewing logs... etc. will always beat out a zerg (until a certain point anyways).

Just because 10 PUGS wearing random sets can't defeat a group of 12 in coms that are min/maxing doesn't mean ZOS doesn't care.