No, I would not welcome a class change token. As we've seen with race change tokens, the addition of monetized change tokens opens ZOS up to accusations that they are making balance adjustments just to sell tokens, followed by a complete cessation of all balance adjustments.

LunaFlora wrote: »

it's not within the realm of possibility as Gina stated last year in the thread linked above.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just wanted to let you all know that we do not have any plans on implementing class changes tokens at this time. There are a number of technical challenges with implementing them, and it would take a significant amount of time to solve these challenges efficiently and safely.

i would also love it though. it would be really nice to have. but sadly not happening.

To be honest, that post was pure baloney.

I’d love to hear what these “challenges“ are. Many of the changes they’ve implemented in the past few years have been far more “challenging”.

This is a nothing burger but they won’t come out and say they don’t want to do it because they have non-technical rationale for it. I believe they are worried it will reduce overall playtime which is a metric used to gauge their success, but they are wrong.

RomanRex wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

it's not within the realm of possibility as Gina stated last year in the thread linked above.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, just wanted to let you all know that we do not have any plans on implementing class changes tokens at this time. There are a number of technical challenges with implementing them, and it would take a significant amount of time to solve these challenges efficiently and safely.

i would also love it though. it would be really nice to have. but sadly not happening.

To be honest, that post was pure baloney.

I’d love to hear what these “challenges“ are. Many of the changes they’ve implemented in the past few years have been far more “challenging”.

This is a nothing burger but they won’t come out and say they don’t want to do it because they have non-technical rationale for it. I believe they are worried it will reduce overall playtime which is a metric used to gauge their success, but they are wrong.

I also have to disagree that the post by Gina was pure baloney. The ESO game is large and complex software, and changes that may appear to the casual outsider to be simple are frequently complex and difficult to implement. There are various contributing factors to this, some of which are:

• software development staff turnover, forcing newer devs to work with previous devs' code;
• differences in coding style between the various devs: even with coding standards being rigorously followed, not everyone writes code exactly the same way;
• the risk of software regression increases with the complexity of the update, so this risk must be taken into account when prioritising what requested software changes are done.

Well, if that were the case I would expect to hear a concrete reason beyond “it’s challenging”. Seems like a blanket statement just to continue kicking the can for those requesting it.

I don’t care to be honest. I have zero hope of it happening despite it being a big ask by players for as many years as I’ve been playing.

They will push out things that most players don’t like or didn’t ask for (ToT comes to mind), but then ignore some of the most requested features/QoL improvements. That is why I find it frustrating.

DisgruntledFarmer wrote: »

"We do not have any plans on implementing class changes tokens at this time."

I don't interpret this as them saying the token isn't in the realm of possibility, but rather that it wasn't planned at that time. As the referenced post took place quite some time ago, I was just hoping to touch base and determine if the community's undeniable interest in such a product prompted ZOS to consider the possibility further.

In response to VouxeTheMinotaur above: Zone completions, quest progress, and crafting traits are not account wide. I personally wouldn't mind making a new character if there was a way to transfer this progress.

Transferring progress could be nice if done well. Like an option when creating a character allowing you to delete another character while retaining all progress made with it.

I don’t care to start from level 1, but zone and quest completion is a massive grind if you start over from nothing.

TDVM wrote: »

There is no need to add a class change chip, if you want to play a different class, create a new character. The fact that you can't change class is normal for MMOs, there are many MMOs where you can't change classes.

Agreed. A class change token just seems unnecessary when you can, as TDVM says, make a new toon with the same appearance while many items obtained are account wide. I understand not everything is spread to different toons, such as certain zone achievements and character bound items. But for the sake of immersion, that new character doesn't know of those things or how to do these things because it hasn't been exposed to it.

Having a character that specializes in let's say crafting everything while another character doesn't know how to craft, but is very good at mage abilities (mages guild skill line) adds to each toons personality and specialization, keeping you interested in playing them for more than just the brawn of their battle prowess. I like the idea of swapping toons to better fit the situation in hand, kind of like a "I know a guy" scene in movies or such.

Outside of immersion though, if you want to get those toons to do what previous characters can, you could always buy the skill lines from the crown store. Seems low to suggest, i know, and i understand not everything like those zone achievements are in the store, but that's quite literally the price to pay for some things, otherwise, you will have to help that new character EARN it all over again. Yes it's annoying to repeat things X amount of times for X amount of toons, but it's the sacrifice of most MMO's. I can only imagine how it'll be when scribing is released, I don't know if those are character or account.

I get why people are upset with @ZOS_GinaBruno 's answer to the class change, but even without a full blown essay explanation of why they won't, i can still understand why they won't. I'm sure it was brought to the conference table to the developers for more than a quick "how about this?" "no, next." They definitely thought it through, because again, it would've been a great money source for the amount of times people pull out the wallet to just change to necromancer, hate it, go to templar, hate it, try nightblade, etc., but they decided no for the time being.

Who knows? Maybe it will come though, they're just not ready to implement it into the game because they have focus on something else, or the game's set up isn't ready for class change token. With a game the size of ESO, a simple backspace on 1 letter or even an underscore in a code can set the game up in flames. It takes time, give them a chance.

You could start a new toon today and it will have caught up with your other one in a year or two. Even if it takes 4 years, ESO isn't going anywhere.

TDVM wrote: »

There is no need to add a class change chip, if you want to play a different class, create a new character. The fact that you can't change class is normal for MMOs, there are many MMOs where you can't change classes.

You forget the fact that:

1. We choose a class and play our only single character forever.
2. Then ZOS add a new class that maybe fit better our role that we tried to accomplish in our current class.

For example, I chose Templar at first because I wanted to heal people and light power was closer to nature I could get. They added Warden later, the class I would have loved to play first.

Whatever, I’m just a casual Elder Scrolls player and don’t want to waste my time discovering everything again from map completion and discover, enchantment, crafting, etc.

It’s not about being Meta or whatever like some people in other thread are thinking. It’s just that not everyone is hardcore gamers who only play this game non-stop.

Would be a lot of Crown sales on this one. I'm a marketing person, so I could NOT overlook the increased revenues. Should make it where it can NOT be purchased by those cheap 3rd world countries too. I've never understood that logic.

No