notReclaimer wrote: »

people always talking about fake tanks, but I never see fake dps mentioned

That's odd.

Seems to me that every thread - including this one - that brings up the subject fairly quickly (second post in the incumbent's case) mentions it.

Am I dreaming this?

On the subject, in my experience this is something that goes away.

Originally 'fake roles' were more of an issue for me; these players may have known the dungeon inside out but I didn't which meant that they were making the whole experience fairly unpleasant.

Furthermore I don't think many people would find the mentality of 'you are just extras in my film and if the game allowed it I would queue for a random daily on my own; you are just ballast, your presence a mandatory irritation the game imposes on me' very agreeable.

Said that, after many years I no longer care.

I get in the dungeon and do my thing - the only part I have any control over - and whether the rest of the players do their thing or not, when it comes to random normal dungeons, doesn't have much bearing on the outcome anymore, only on the duration and to an extent level of irritation (I dislike being endlessly stuck in combat, progressing through the dungeons at 'combat speed' and unable to switch gear).

I never queue as a different role to the one I intend to perform because doing so would create cognitive dissonance - in my personal opinion this practice is inherently deceitful and an imposition of one's goals over everyone else's from the start - and that is grief I could very much do without.

However if other players don't have this handicap or they are happy to deal with it as it arises, you do you. There is nothing I can do about it anyway and ultimately I want to get this done and over with.

Dear Fake Healers, you're no better than the Fake Tanks that everyone hates, especially when your damage sucks and you aren't good at the game.

I get so tired of seeing all of these threads with everyone complaining about Fake Tanks, but they don't seem to care too much about the Fake Healers. Well this is a two-way street, and s*** runs both ways...

"Just go do Veteran Dungeons because it's only a problem in Normal Dungeons", they said... Well as a Tank, I see Fake Healers in Veteran Dungeons (even Vet DLC!!!) multiple times every single day!

"But I have Matriarch equipped and will heal when you're almost dead", the Fake Healer said... I also have healing and damaging abilities equipped, does that make me a Healer or a Damage Dealer? No, it does not.

I've even had Fake Healers try to blame me and say that I should be using more healing abilities... I'm sorry that I'm not a selfish Tank and I build for group support? I guess maybe the Healers and Damage Dealers should be supplying their own buffs and debuffs???

I've made an addon so that I can keep track of all the Fake Healers and get notified when they're around. So the next time I see them in a Veteran Dungeon I'm voting to kick their sorry self. And if that doesn't work then I'll just leave group and make them wait for another Tank. I'm sorry for the innocent players that lose a Tank, but I'm not dealing with the Fake Healers anymore.

PS:
If you want to Fake Tank or Fake Heal, then YOU need to go make your own group. It is NOT everyone else's responsibility to make their own group just to avoid toxic players. The Group Finder is relatively new to the game, but the Activity Finder has been around forever. And the whole Fake Tank/Healer problem really only became prevalent after ZOS introduced the Daily Random Dungeon Transmute Crystal rewards.