Warden dps in end game

Otrocious · March 12

oh sht here we go again... And as always, the section where is Warden DPS? For more than a year and a half, Warden has not been played as a DPS in ESO at all! We look at the well-known site ESO logs. Let's watch the latest HM trials. all classes in the role of DD are represented in one way or another. Except who? You nailed it!! Warden!!!ding ding ding!!! And what did the latest patch 41 bring us? But you probably don’t know, so I’ll say it. DPS dropped even lower. Wow!!!! maybe we can delete this class? because apparently the developers hate it! and I'm very sorry for the people who made him their main character. People like me. or let's humiliate him even further! take away his dps abilities altogether. Why are they? Warden is now only a healer. Not even a tank

But to be fair, I will only say this in PVE. In pvp he feels great. But we're not here for pvp, right?

So what will we do next? Let other classes receive buffs and improvements, but not Warden. I'm so tired of this careless attitude. play a meta arcanist and don't whine players... yes, thanks

Soarora · March 12

Warden is a META tank in more than one situation, they are more than a healer.

Yes warden DPS needs buffed though, especially stam.

ESO_Nightingale · March 13

Soarora wrote: »

Warden is a META tank in more than one situation, they are more than a healer.

Yes warden DPS needs buffed though, especially stam.

biggest pain points i have for dps warden right now outside of being kinda eh at dps are mainly relating to utility

lack of access to minor toughness for group, nature's gift is designed to not work for us and a lesser point is that aoe major resolve isn't something you can afford to take on a dps. our utility is strictly designed to be used by healers and tanks and its too old of a design to stay.

miguelcura · March 13

This parse is not mine but they reach almost 135k per warden in this new patch. I think the people pigeonhole classes wrong, they just want to play arcanist to watch netflix while playing. It is also true that he has sustain problems and lacks love :-)

https://ibb.co/1GDS6KJ
https://ibb.co/9Hwtk7b

Otrocious · March 13

miguelcura wrote: »

This parse is not mine but they reach almost 135k per warden in this new patch. I think the people pigeonhole classes wrong, they just want to play arcanist to watch netflix while playing. It is also true that he has sustain problems and lacks love :-)

https://ibb.co/1GDS6KJ
https://ibb.co/9Hwtk7b

and any way Warden dd dont need in tials HM and trifectas. useless class...

moderatelyfatman · March 14

miguelcura wrote: »

This parse is not mine but they reach almost 135k per warden in this new patch. I think the people pigeonhole classes wrong, they just want to play arcanist to watch netflix while playing. It is also true that he has sustain problems and lacks love :-)

https://ibb.co/1GDS6KJ
https://ibb.co/9Hwtk7b

First of all, full credit to the person who did that parse. With a total missed time of 3.5 seconds, I'd say that that person is probably within the very top 0.1 percent of players.

However, I'd also love to see if that same person can post a 135k parse on a stamden without using a cheese such as Wrecking Blow or Rapid Strikes/MA two hander.

I'd be delighted to get the same dps on a more challenging rotation using my stamden compared to my arcanist friends.The issue here is not ease of play: a member of my guild posted a 60k dps parse on a level 29 arcanist. These same players who are very experienced with other classes play arcanist not because of the easier rotation but because the damage is through the roof compared to other classes.

The lack of reasonable balance means that certain classes just can't pull their weight in end game content as dps.

ESO_Nightingale · March 14

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

miguelcura wrote: »

This parse is not mine but they reach almost 135k per warden in this new patch. I think the people pigeonhole classes wrong, they just want to play arcanist to watch netflix while playing. It is also true that he has sustain problems and lacks love :-)

https://ibb.co/1GDS6KJ
https://ibb.co/9Hwtk7b

First of all, full credit to the person who did that parse. With a total missed time of 3.5 seconds, I'd say that that person is probably within the very top 0.1 percent of players.

However, I'd also love to see if that same person can post a 135k parse on a stamden without using a cheese such as Wrecking Blow or Rapid Strikes/MA two hander.

I'd be delighted to get the same dps on a more challenging rotation using my stamden compared to my arcanist friends.The issue here is not ease of play: a member of my guild posted a 60k dps parse on a level 29 arcanist. These same players who are very experienced with other classes play arcanist not because of the easier rotation but because the damage is through the roof compared to other classes.

The lack of reasonable balance means that certain classes just can't pull their weight in end game content as dps.

Another thing about cheese is that using a 2h on your backbar with executioner, carve and stampede on a frostden might just barely work on a parse, but in real content you need that stamina for running, blocking and rolling. I have found it incredibly hard to realistically try and use a 2h backbar with my other stamina skills.

DigiAngel · March 14

I play my one bar heavy warden in vet content all the time. Around 78K ish has been fine. Not sure what OP is talking about?

moderatelyfatman · March 15

DigiAngel wrote: »

I play my one bar heavy warden in vet content all the time. Around 78K ish has been fine. Not sure what OP is talking about?

This is the discussion about endgame dps warden. 78k single target in content is awesome although you probably won't get invited to vCR!

TheBaronXIII · May 3

I am convinced the devs treat Wardens as an after thought. A bothersome foster kid that brings in a paycheck, but after that, is a burden. I regret making it my main. . .

Love the game, but growing frustrated with the neglect of the devs to obvious issues brought up by the community. Warden continuing to get nerfed just seems toxic and abusive at this point.