Are we talking about the same skills?



One objectively does more damage than the other morph while providing a necessary buff, which if you touched an alchemy table you would see the benefit of that, the other provides a minuscule heal that scales off of a % of damage when we’ve already established the skill does less of that than it’s other morph.

As for your other comments…

Sun Shield or better yet Blazing Shield is a defensive/burst skill, not a tank or MagPlar skill, it used to be incredible for lining up your burst on StamPlar, and is completely relevant when discussing how to improve the class as a whole, but it’s so weak now it’s become useless, if you’ve been here long enough to see Blinding Flashes, you would have been aware of that…

Now for your hot take on Blinding Flashes, no it wasn’t horrible to play against, it was Shuffle but for Magicka, dodging attacks did not break the game, it provided a means to stay offensive when Stamina Templar is forced into spammables that all have cast times, meaning every time you try to line up your burst, an enemy can shut you down… this is the major root problem when playing the class. Having strong HoTs is part of the remedy to that, but they do nothing to prevent you from getting stunned mid offensive, where having a skill that allows you to occasionally dodge a stun makes your offense less interruptible, allowing you to actually hit Backlash’s cap.

Other classes enjoy the ability to block-cast their entire offensive window and don’t have the same problem. You can just get on a Dragonknight where all of your damage heals you while holding block, and then the only time you drop block, you’re either becoming immune to 97% of damage or getting a whole healthbar over shield and half of your resources back.

Night and day experience playing both classes open world.

While I agree a corpse mechanic for a holy warrior, is weird, that wouldn’t be the case if you could steal corpses from your Necromancer opponent or from your Necromancer teammates.

Templar does not have a native defensive ultimate. Remembrance used to be one when it had its unique 30%+ protection when channeling it, but that’s been stripped from the skill for years now. Part of Stamina Templar’s problem, is that the class is too dependent on HoTs, or healing in general, and the only damage skills we have are extremely weak, or made weak by buffs like Minor/Major Evasion.

Fixing Templar in any and all of it’s forms is a multi-faceted solution, one that addresses the extreme dependence that the class has on weapon/spell damage to survive because all of their defensive and offensive skills worth slotting, scale with it, while other classes get to enjoy and try out all of the new proc sets.

Templar is stuck in 2016, except it’s 2024 now and we’re stuck with a choice between, moving incredibly slow to have damage, or constantly floating around 30% stamina to get damage from sets like Coral Riptide.

Such fun and engaging gameplay. /s

Extended Ritual needs to remove more debuffs, probably double what it does now.

Jabs needs a damage buff in both morphs either in the form of directly altering the numbers for the skill or addressing skills such as Solar Barrage. I'd argue both need adjusting.

Barspace is an issue with Plar more than other classes, either add Major Breach to PotL and Purifying Light or add it to one/both of the Jabs morphs.

Solar Barrage is useless. Why would you use it over Camo Hunter? 5% damage on class skills and a weak aoe dot Vs 3% damage to ALL skills plus potential for another 5% from minor berserk plus the added bonus of having a skill to detect nightblades. It's a no brainer, especially given that most people will use Dawnbreaker over Crescent Sweeps, which just amplifies the differences even further. Add a snare to this skill and another 5% damage to class skills, bringing it to 10%, remove the snare from Jabs.

Remove minor protection from Aedric Spear passives and add it to one of the runes. As a healer or even on backbar as a DD you don't benefit from this like you do with other classes such as the Warden.

Turn Repentance into an aoe HoT which is buffed depending on how many bodies are nearby, rather than a one off burst heal. Or keep Repentance as it is and make the other morph what I suggested. So then you have either a burst heal or a HoT depending on what you prefer.

Change Everlasting Sweep ultimate to something different, perhaps a more expensive but more bursty class ultimate. If you compare the class ultimates of the Templar to all the other classes you can see a huge discrepancy in potential. Crescent has a place due to its cost but the rest are poor. DK has 3 fantastic ultimates, Warden has some fantastic ultimates, Nightblade - fantastic ultimates, Necro - good ultimates. Plar has the worst of the lot.

Finally, make Dark Flare instant or reduce the cast time. The idea of the Plar is to be strong in its 'house' but not mobile or dangerous outside of it, hence all of the runes. But then the class has no ability to hit targets at range from within its runes unless you spam execute, it has no burst or sustained pressure, you cannot fit a stun onto the bar without sacrificing something important. It's a mess and needs some support.