Wall of Elements?? Can you Have 2 Versions of the Same Morph going at the same time??

ElderSmitter · April 21

So, can I have on my Backbar a Flame Staff with Blockade of Fire going then Switch to my Front Bar and activate Blockade of Storms at the same time? Or once I activate one it cancels out the other? I cannot tell on Combat Metrics and on my bar, it shows both counting down. Can anyone confirm This? Thanks

Based on my Combat Metrics it Looks like it but I cannot tell because it also could be the initial Damage form one before I am able to switch bars and activate the other overriding the first.

virtus753 · April 21

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

ElderSmitter · April 21

virtus753 wrote: »

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

Both are doing some extreme damage, so it is very hard for me to tell. Like even though the Fight Log says only 1 name both are still running. I start with Fire on my Backbar to trigger my Infused glyph then switched to my front bar and drop Blockade of Storms.

I'll have to do more testing. Cause i am seeing both do like 4-6% of total damage.

ElderSmitter · April 21

virtus753 wrote: »

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

Here is a screenshot of what i am talking about. Zoom in i am not sure how to post zoomed in pictures sorry.

virtus753 · April 21

ElderSmitter wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

Here is a screenshot of what i am talking about. Zoom in i am not sure how to post zoomed in pictures sorry.

Click on the "combat log" tab on the left to see the damage with timestamps. The overview page you're looking at doesn't show what hit when, but the log does.

ETA: Also, if you're trying to test two walls, just test the two walls. If you add other skills, the log will just be that much more cluttered.

virtus753 · April 21

I cast frost wall from my back bar, waited 3 seconds, then cast fire wall from my front bar.

Frost wall disappeared when fire wall was cast.

ElderSmitter · April 21

virtus753 wrote: »

ElderSmitter wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

Here is a screenshot of what i am talking about. Zoom in i am not sure how to post zoomed in pictures sorry.

Click on the "combat log" tab on the left to see the damage with timestamps. The overview page you're looking at doesn't show what hit when, but the log does.

ETA: Also, if you're trying to test two walls, just test the two walls. If you add other skills, the log will just be that much more cluttered.

Thanks... Yes 1 is over writing the other in Logs for sure. I see that. I just am having trouble comprehending on how Fire can still do so much damage as i am switching off of it once i switch bars very quickly. I appreciate the help and will do further testing. 1 would think since I am using 2 diff types of Staves that both would work.

ElderSmitter · April 21

virtus753 wrote: »

I cast frost wall from my back bar, waited 3 seconds, then cast fire wall from my front bar.

Frost wall disappeared when fire wall was cast.

Yes, the Overwrite i see. 100% But it still shows Blockade of Frost ticking on your Bar while the other is also ticking and active. You would think it would cancel the other out stopping the countdown to refresh.

virtus753 · April 21

ElderSmitter wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

ElderSmitter wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Look in your combat metrics log. The tab actually labeled “combat log” shows all damage done with timestamps.

For me, laying down frost wall with one bar and then switching to the other bar to lay down fire wall causes fire wall to overwrite frost wall.

Here is a screenshot of what i am talking about. Zoom in i am not sure how to post zoomed in pictures sorry.

Click on the "combat log" tab on the left to see the damage with timestamps. The overview page you're looking at doesn't show what hit when, but the log does.

ETA: Also, if you're trying to test two walls, just test the two walls. If you add other skills, the log will just be that much more cluttered.

Thanks... Yes 1 is over writing the other in Logs for sure. I see that. I just am having trouble comprehending on how Fire can still do so much damage as i am switching off of it once i switch bars very quickly. I appreciate the help and will do further testing. 1 would think since I am using 2 diff types of Staves that both would work.

Are you using Unstable? I was using Blockade because this was my tank spec.

Unstable fire wall might explode when you cast the other type of wall.

ElderSmitter · April 21

Using Blockade.

Varana · April 21

ElderSmitter wrote: »

Here is a screenshot of what i am talking about. Zoom in i am not sure how to post zoomed in pictures sorry.

In this overview, the Fire blockade hit 19 times, the Storm blockade hit 24 times, so not that much more (but with better crit). So it looks like you had the Fire blockade running for some time, only a bit shorter than the Storm one. You should be able to count the hits in the log section of CMX to check how long you had each of them active.

kringled_1 · April 21

ElderSmitter wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

I cast frost wall from my back bar, waited 3 seconds, then cast fire wall from my front bar.

Frost wall disappeared when fire wall was cast.

Yes, the Overwrite i see. 100% But it still shows Blockade of Frost ticking on your Bar while the other is also ticking and active. You would think it would cancel the other out stopping the countdown to refresh.

Are you referring to the in-game ability timers or an add-on like action duration reminder? They probably arent programmed to distinguish between the two casts since its the same ability.