ItMustBeThursday wrote: »

Have you actually played a night blade in PVP? They do not have the damage mitigation you're referring to at all. They melt

Not true for all cases. I've smacked some with dawnbreaker just to watch them take very little damage. Night Blades can be very tanky now.

Aren't there usually a million complaints that everyone is too tanky in pvp?

We can all see the two classes FOTM players play far more than any other, so it's obvious that they need adjustments, but a wholesale nerf of crit builds isn't the answer.

I hope ZOS is looking at the numbers and can see that too.

Bashev wrote: »

Ppl are tanky because of block casting heals when you drop in execute and putting all attributes in health. And they do that because otherwise they will be deleted for 2-3 seconds because it is easy to build 120%+ crit damage with 40%+ crit chance.

Stalemate builds, survivable healbots and tanks were growing issues when I stopped playing in 2019, but they were all much worse when I returned recently.

IMO, the main contributors are hybridization which eliminated the trade-off factor of tri-glyphs, OP CP perks, execute nerfs, and healing creep. But probably more than anything are PVE focused combat changes that completely ignore the PVP impact--look at what the last round of combat changes did.

Plus power creep has impacted burst in some cases, resulting in the need to run more HP, but we also see power creep in healing and sustain.

In some ways, PVP *seems* balanced because there are so many stalemates, but stalemates are not considered a positive trait in PVP games. In reality, PVP game design is so broken it is really at a "go back to the drawing board" state. It needs a complete detachment from the PVE side of the game.