Why is Sundered Status Effect so important?

moderatelyfatman · April 14

Hello All,

I'm looking at new builds and chatting with guildies. There has been the recommendation that the new set Tarnished NIghtmare is particularly good because it procs AOE sundered status.

According to ESO hub, it has the following effects:
Instant Damage
Minor Breach and 100 Weapon/Spell damage for 4 seconds.

I was wondering what makes this such a good effect?

BixenteN7Akantor · April 14

Well this speaks for itself.
Unique ws buff is too good to pass

Freilauftomate · April 14

Maybe people like the set because of the 100% status effect chance every 8 seconds, instead of the 20%, 10% 5%, 3%, 1% or whatever chances from other sources.

Or maybe it was popular for a while because it was broken. "Fixed an issue where this set had unintended effects combined with Magicka Detonation and its morphs."

Dagoth_Rac · April 14

Tarnished Nightmare itself does instant damage, then sundered does instant damage, then it reduces enemy armor, which increases the damage you do to them, then it raises your weapon/spell damage, which increases the damage you do. It is pretty much across the board damage, damage, and more damage. And the armor reduction and weapon/spell damage buffs increase all damage, not just damage from the set.

CameraBeardThePirate · April 14

Sundered was already good when it only applied minor breach. Minor breach is easily sourced from other things, but was still a good enough debuff that it made sundered a relatively good status effect.

The new 100 weapon and spell damage you get from sundered is unique. It cannot be sourced from anywhere else and stacks with every other source of weapon/spell damage. It also gets increased by modifiers - on a typical build youd be getting anywhere from 120-144 weapon and spell damage instead of the 100 (20% from Major Brut/Sorc, 2% from each piece of Medium Armor, 10% from minor sorc/brut)

This means that on pretty much any build without a source of sundered, you're basically throwing away free weapon and spell damage. Add this to the Minor Breach, AND the damage proc of sundered, and it means that you should, in most builds, try to get a source of sundered.

yadibroz · April 15

Why people don't use Sunderflame?

MidniteOwl1913 · April 15

Is this for PVE or PVP?

Dagoth_Rac · April 15

yadibroz wrote: »

Why people don't use Sunderflame?

Because it requires a heavy attack, which is clunky and unwanted at endgame, whereas Tarnished Nightmare just requires critical damage? And because it doesn't apply Sundered? It applies one of the effects of Sundered (Minor Breach), but not the instant damage or increase in spell/weapon damage. So Sunderflame is basically Tarnished Nightmare but with a less appealing proc condition and an effect that is always worse than Sundered? I guess the flame damage from Sunderflame could proc Burning, but Burning is just a generic DoT now. Sundered's ability to not just do its own damage but buff all the rest of your damage probably makes it better than Burning now.