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Where can I get a decent target dummy to parse on?
DanteTheDeviant
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Anything in the game for free that's better than the Soul-Swarn Thall that only has like 321k hp?
Hard to learn the game without access to the right tools.
Hard to learn the game without access to the right tools.
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Aislinna✭✭✭✭✭Many guilds seem to have various target dummies in their guild house. Maybe check if your guilds have one, or consider joining a guild to get access.
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DanteTheDeviant✭✭✭Many guilds seem to have various target dummies in their guild house. Maybe check if your guilds have one, or consider joining a guild to get access.
Sure, but I would like to have my own. Is there no target dummy in game I can earn through gameplay? It's an essential part to the game, surely it's not completely paywalled...0 -
Aislinna✭✭✭✭✭Oh, sorry I misunderstood. There are some small target dummies you can earn in game, like the Clockwork City one, or the Western Skyrim public dungeon one, and probably others, but I think the big trial ones are from crowns only.
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fizl101✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Western skyrim labrinthian dungeon, from memory its a 6m dummy. Collect the pieces that drop from mobsSoupy twist2 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Guess you might be hinting on absence of trial ones earned in-game, and you're right.2 -
PapaTankers✭✭✭You can buy some directly from guild traders with 3mil hp.
Also there are trial dummies you can buy from guild traders (dwarven ones).
Alternatively you can farm writ voucers and craft them yourself.
They do not give buffs like trial dummy, iron astronach however which is standard for parsing.2 -
SpacemanSpiff1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭there are dwarven centurian dummies (25 or 50 million health) and skeleton dummies (3 or 6 million health) that can be crafted and sold to other players.1 -
DanteTheDeviant✭✭✭Just wanted to say thank you all for the information! Guess I'm gonna start crafting haha (:
It is unfortunate though that zos hasn't given all players access to a trial target dummy since that's the standard for parsing... Fingers crossed they provide one in the upcoming DLC... It's bad enough the game doesn't teach you how to do light attack weaving, how to maintain uptime on DoTs, that sustain impacts your dps, etc etc, but to also not provide us the tools to teach ourselves unless we pay, that feels like pay-to-win to me.
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Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭DanteTheDeviant wrote: »Just wanted to say thank you all for the information! Guess I'm gonna start crafting haha (:
It is unfortunate though that zos hasn't given all players access to a trial target dummy since that's the standard for parsing... Fingers crossed they provide one in the upcoming DLC... It's bad enough the game doesn't teach you how to do light attack weaving, how to maintain uptime on DoTs, that sustain impacts your dps, etc etc, but to also not provide us the tools to teach ourselves unless we pay, that feels like pay-to-win to me.
^This
Also, I would like ZOS to add this trial target dummy as part of a solo instanced training room that you could go to at any time for free. This training room would have an NPC that would talk to you while you were practicing your DPS, and the dialogue would be intended to teach you all the things you said above (how to do light attack weaving, etc.).1 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PapaTankers wrote: »You can buy some directly from guild traders with 3mil hp.
Also there are trial dummies you can buy from guild traders (dwarven ones).
Alternatively you can farm writ voucers and craft them yourself.
They do not give buffs like trial dummy, iron astronach however which is standard for parsing.
the crafted trial dummies i dont think come with all the buffs of a true trial dummy like the ones that are paid with crowns, but ive never actually crafted one so im unsure if they updated those to come with the buffsplays PC/NA
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active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities2 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are ones you can obtain in game that have decent HP but do not offer any buffs. They can be crafted with plans that can be bought with writ vouchers. The Centurion models are probably best but one probably has more HP than the other. The Robust Refabricated has more HP than the Dwarf one. Both require parts obtained from doing the weekly in HoF trial.
I suggest avoiding the target skeletons as they have a lot less HP but still work as test dummies.
Further, unless someone is using the iron atronach, only available for crowns, they would have to make adjustments to compensate for the lack of sustain. Adjusting the rotation when working to practice and refine it is not the best choice. Adding sustain via food/drinks helps.
So while the fancy one that provides the buffs and debuff is the best choice, free is free and always a good price.
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✭✭I don't think the dwemer construct dummies provide any buffs. They just have a lot of health and I think the original intent was for them to be used for a group to parse together.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭kringled_1 wrote: »I don't think the dwemer construct dummies provide any buffs. They just have a lot of health and I think the original intent was for them to be used for a group to parse together.
Correct. They does not have the buffs.
Since the OP is looking for one that is available for free in the game the constructs that I mentioned are the best choices. The smaller of the two would be better for a solo parse. The skeletons and other dummies available for free in-game do not have enough HP for them to be worthwhile.
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✭✭DanteTheDeviant wrote: »Just wanted to say thank you all for the information! Guess I'm gonna start crafting haha (:
It is unfortunate though that zos hasn't given all players access to a trial target dummy since that's the standard for parsing... Fingers crossed they provide one in the upcoming DLC... It's bad enough the game doesn't teach you how to do light attack weaving, how to maintain uptime on DoTs, that sustain impacts your dps, etc etc, but to also not provide us the tools to teach ourselves unless we pay, that feels like pay-to-win to me.
^This
Also, I would like ZOS to add this trial target dummy as part of a solo instanced training room that you could go to at any time for free. This training room would have an NPC that would talk to you while you were practicing your DPS, and the dialogue would be intended to teach you all the things you said above (how to do light attack weaving, etc.).
Light attack weaving was never an intended game mechanic but they've just left it alone because players made it work.
They're not going to teach you how to do something they didn't originally intend you do.1 -
Zastrix✭✭✭✭✭Light attack weaving was never an intended game mechanic but they've just left it alone because players made it work.
They're not going to teach you how to do something they didn't originally intend you do.
Game combos were never an intended game mechanic. Street Fighter 2 had combos by accident (a bug) but players made it work, then later added it into future title.
Only difference and point on which I agree is that there isn't a tutorial, which they should add.110-114k Stage 4 Vamprie Magblade u39
Aldmeri Dominion did nothing wrong in Shadowfen.2 -
M0ntie✭✭✭✭✭DanteTheDeviant wrote: »Just wanted to say thank you all for the information! Guess I'm gonna start crafting haha (:
It is unfortunate though that zos hasn't given all players access to a trial target dummy since that's the standard for parsing... Fingers crossed they provide one in the upcoming DLC... It's bad enough the game doesn't teach you how to do light attack weaving, how to maintain uptime on DoTs, that sustain impacts your dps, etc etc, but to also not provide us the tools to teach ourselves unless we pay, that feels like pay-to-win to me.
^This
Also, I would like ZOS to add this trial target dummy as part of a solo instanced training room that you could go to at any time for free. This training room would have an NPC that would talk to you while you were practicing your DPS, and the dialogue would be intended to teach you all the things you said above (how to do light attack weaving, etc.).
Light attack weaving was never an intended game mechanic but they've just left it alone because players made it work.
They're not going to teach you how to do something they didn't originally intend you do.
The game does give a load screen tip that tells you about light attack weaving. For those that don't like it, there is the Velothi Amulet and a HA sorc.
Time to stop flogging the dead horse of "light attack weaving isn't a legitimate game mechanic".
Coming back to the OP's question. I agree 100% that the game should provide a trial buffed dummy in game. And also tell you how much dps you are doing. It is nearly impossible for people to learn without quantitative feedback.1