if i decon items with nirnhoned trait

ClowdyAllDay · January 10

shouldnt i expect to get some nirnhoned from deconning them? if i do 20 items with nirnhoned trait and decon them i should get some nirncruxes back? yes?

bmnoble · January 10

You would think so but it's still RNG based, if RNG Jesus likes you, you could get a lot of potent nirn back or if he hates you in the worst case none at all.

It's how people use up their excess transmute stones when they run out of storage, they use them to retrait a bunch of level 1 weapons then decon it for the chance to get potent nirn, to sell.

SeaGtGruff · January 10

Yes, but it isn't guaranteed. The RNG is based on your level in the appropriate crafting skill line's extraction ability, as well as your Meticulous Disassembly CP ability.

kringled_1 · January 10

Mostly yes, but not if they were reconstructed.

TybaltKaine · January 10

@kringled_1 nailed it.

You can decon as many reconstructed pieces as the game allows but you won't get anything for it, ever.

You only get trait mats from transmuted items (50 transmutes a pop) and not reconstructed ones.

You also get them back from deconstructing nirnhoned items that drop in the wild, but there is no 100% guarantee. Those are meant to be used for trait research more than anything. This also applies to the one's you find in guild traders. Most of them are made to be used as training mats and not decon mats. You will rarely find them made in specific craftable sets and usually for a ton of gold

DinoZavr · January 10

to obtain Nirncruxes from the excessive Transmute Crystals you have you to:
1. Craft or obtain the necessary gear pieces from the mobs drops or buy gear.. this does not matter much
2. TRANSMUTE them into Nirhoned trait (not reconstruct, but transmute for 50 Crystals a piece)
3. Decon them transmuted items
You get Nirncrux with roughly 50% chance on the character with maxed deconstruction skills

i don't have enough proof Green CP "Meticulous Disassembly" affects gear deconstruction
(though it definitely impacts raw material refining), but i slot it anyway when at Crafting Stations

ClowdyAllDay · January 10

Thank you for the clarification. I just cant brain sometimes i has the dumbs.

Four_Fingers · January 10

Also make sure you have all the crafting passives and Meticulous Disassembly CP for best chance.

virtus753 · January 10

TybaltKaine wrote: »

You also get them back from deconstructing nirnhoned items that drop in the wild, but there is no 100% guarantee. Those are meant to be used for trait research more than anything. This also applies to the one's you find in guild traders. Most of them are made to be used as training mats and not decon mats. You will rarely find them made in specific craftable sets and usually for a ton of gold

The nirnhoned pieces that are specifically meant to be researched are called Exemplary. They do not drop in the wild. They are exclusively granted as a one-time reward from the final quest of the Craglorn main questline. (The specific item is random, but the nirnhoned trait is guaranteed.) They can be equipped without being bound as well.

Nirnhoned pieces that drop in the wild come only from very limited content (certain trials and arenas). These are not specifically intended for research (they are not Exemplary) and may be used, researched, or deconned freely. These are also all BoP, with the usual 2-hour trading timer if gotten with other group members present. People running these pieces of content repeatedly may well be deconning most of their nirn drops on sight, especially if they have already researched that trait on that piece or don't have an interest in doing so.

ZOS_Volpe · January 10

Greetings,

We have gone ahead and moved this thread to a category we think is more suitable for this topic, Crafting.

Thanks for your understanding.

Djennku · January 29

If you are planning to use the nirnhoned gear for research, DO NOT decon it. Instead, craft the item you want to research and then transmute that. It removes the chance of having a loss of crux from deconning the item if you plan to just make a different piece for your toons. Just something I learned while doing trait rese4arch for my alts.

Djennku · February 21

Djennku wrote: »

If you are planning to use the nirnhoned gear for research, DO NOT decon it. Instead, craft the item you want to research and then transmute that. It removes the chance of having a loss of crux from deconning the item if you plan to just make a different piece for your toons. Just something I learned while doing trait rese4arch for my alts.

Ignore this. I am dumb. XD It turns out you can't research transmuted or reconstructed gear. So, you still have to decon it for the crux before creating researchable items. And here I thought I was being smart. XD

EDIT: Want to apologize for the inaccurate information. Was not my intention to present wrong info. Sometimes I get excited and overthink things and get ahead of myself.

lillybit · March 15

Djennku wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

If you are planning to use the nirnhoned gear for research, DO NOT decon it. Instead, craft the item you want to research and then transmute that. It removes the chance of having a loss of crux from deconning the item if you plan to just make a different piece for your toons. Just something I learned while doing trait rese4arch for my alts.

Ignore this. I am dumb. XD It turns out you can't research transmuted or reconstructed gear. So, you still have to decon it for the crux before creating researchable items. And here I thought I was being smart. XD

EDIT: Want to apologize for the inaccurate information. Was not my intention to present wrong info. Sometimes I get excited and overthink things and get ahead of myself.

You can't research on the same character because you have to know the trait first before you can transmute or reconstruct (the reason I've done research on multiple characters). Could you not create something for a different one to research tho?

Djennku · March 16

lillybit wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

If you are planning to use the nirnhoned gear for research, DO NOT decon it. Instead, craft the item you want to research and then transmute that. It removes the chance of having a loss of crux from deconning the item if you plan to just make a different piece for your toons. Just something I learned while doing trait rese4arch for my alts.

Ignore this. I am dumb. XD It turns out you can't research transmuted or reconstructed gear. So, you still have to decon it for the crux before creating researchable items. And here I thought I was being smart. XD

EDIT: Want to apologize for the inaccurate information. Was not my intention to present wrong info. Sometimes I get excited and overthink things and get ahead of myself.

You can't research on the same character because you have to know the trait first before you can transmute or reconstruct (the reason I've done research on multiple characters). Could you not create something for a different one to research tho?

If the item is just transmuted, it can't be researched on a character who needs to learn the trait. My point was I thought I could make something, transmute it, and then have my alt character learn the trait, but I learned it doesn't work that way, same with reconstructed gear. It needs to be straight crafted if you want to use it for research.