Sul Xan - Frontbar possibility?

eMKa8 · February 2

Hi all ,

Would it be possible to only frontbar this set and still have the 5th item bonus active for whole 30 seconds even when bar swapping?

I think it could be awesomely effective bur want to avoid to grind this set if it does t do what i hope

“”(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, When an enemy you recently damaged dies, they leave behind a vengeful soul for 6 seconds. You can only create one vengeful soul at a time. Touching the soul increases your Critical Chance by 2160 and your Critical Damage by 12% for 30 seconds.””

Thanks for the help

yadibroz · February 4

eMKa8 wrote: »

Hi all ,

Would it be possible to only frontbar this set and still have the 5th item bonus active for whole 30 seconds even when bar swapping?

I think it could be awesomely effective bur want to avoid to grind this set if it does t do what i hope

“”(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, When an enemy you recently damaged dies, they leave behind a vengeful soul for 6 seconds. You can only create one vengeful soul at a time. Touching the soul increases your Critical Chance by 2160 and your Critical Damage by 12% for 30 seconds.””

Thanks for the help

I believe the other sulxan that do more damage to pve is better

eMKa8 · February 4

@yadibroz which other sulxan? I dont find another set that has a similar name …

I am intrigued though

yadibroz · February 4

I apologize, it was my mistake, the name was ansuul torment, it does have the same last name of sulxan torment.
And I am trying to get it and those two sets are good which never try them but ansuul would give you more from it.

CGPsaint · February 7

yadibroz wrote: »

I apologize, it was my mistake, the name was ansuul torment, it does have the same last name of sulxan torment.
And I am trying to get it and those two sets are good which never try them but ansuul would give you more from it.

Ansuul's Torment is the way! Flat damage increase without having to manage up-times and the sweet bonus flat damage from interrupting enemies!

Ansuul's Torment
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Gain Minor Slayer at all times, increasing your damage done to Dungeon, Trial, and Arena Monsters by 5%.
(4 items) Adds 1487 Offensive Penetration
(5 items) Increases your damage done against monsters by 7%. When you interrupt an enemy, you increase your damage done against monsters by an additional 7% for 10 seconds.

Perfected Ansuul's Torment
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Gain Minor Slayer at all times, increasing your damage done to Dungeon, Trial, and Arena Monsters by 5%.
(4 items) Adds 1487 Offensive Penetration
(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, Increases your damage done against monsters by 7%. When you interrupt an enemy, you increase your damage done against monsters by an additional 7% for 10 seconds.

yadibroz · February 7

CGPsaint wrote: »

yadibroz wrote: »

I apologize, it was my mistake, the name was ansuul torment, it does have the same last name of sulxan torment.
And I am trying to get it and those two sets are good which never try them but ansuul would give you more from it.

Ansuul's Torment is the way! Flat damage increase without having to manage up-times and the sweet bonus flat damage from interrupting enemies!

Ansuul's Torment
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Gain Minor Slayer at all times, increasing your damage done to Dungeon, Trial, and Arena Monsters by 5%.
(4 items) Adds 1487 Offensive Penetration
(5 items) Increases your damage done against monsters by 7%. When you interrupt an enemy, you increase your damage done against monsters by an additional 7% for 10 seconds.

Perfected Ansuul's Torment
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Gain Minor Slayer at all times, increasing your damage done to Dungeon, Trial, and Arena Monsters by 5%.
(4 items) Adds 1487 Offensive Penetration
(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, Increases your damage done against monsters by 7%. When you interrupt an enemy, you increase your damage done against monsters by an additional 7% for 10 seconds.

Reason I want it because I'm a pve player and having it to do more damage faster and easier would make the game more fun for me than wasting minutes fighting a boss and die even with oakensoul so I think this set will be useful.

i11ionward · February 7

eMKa8 wrote: »

Hi all ,

Would it be possible to only frontbar this set and still have the 5th item bonus active for whole 30 seconds even when bar swapping?

I think it could be awesomely effective bur want to avoid to grind this set if it does t do what i hope

“”(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, When an enemy you recently damaged dies, they leave behind a vengeful soul for 6 seconds. You can only create one vengeful soul at a time. Touching the soul increases your Critical Chance by 2160 and your Critical Damage by 12% for 30 seconds.””

Thanks for the help

Sul-Xan is typically used on the front bar, because on the back bar you want to use Crushing Wall or similar weapons.
I also want to remind you that to use Sul-Xan you need to have someone die at least once every 30 seconds, so Sul-Xan is not the best choice for boss battles, but one of the best options for trash battles.

El_Borracho · February 7

i11ionward wrote: »

eMKa8 wrote: »

Hi all ,

Would it be possible to only frontbar this set and still have the 5th item bonus active for whole 30 seconds even when bar swapping?

I think it could be awesomely effective bur want to avoid to grind this set if it does t do what i hope

“”(5 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance, When an enemy you recently damaged dies, they leave behind a vengeful soul for 6 seconds. You can only create one vengeful soul at a time. Touching the soul increases your Critical Chance by 2160 and your Critical Damage by 12% for 30 seconds.””

Thanks for the help

Sul-Xan is typically used on the front bar, because on the back bar you want to use Crushing Wall or similar weapons.
I also want to remind you that to use Sul-Xan you need to have someone die at least once every 30 seconds, so Sul-Xan is not the best choice for boss battles, but one of the best options for trash battles.

Exactly this. Sul Xan can work well in arenas but not so much in trials or most dungeons. Ansuul's would be the better choice for those

eMKa8 · February 7

Do monsters include everyone? All enemies?
I understand its not pvp or players , but does it also inflict flat dmg to bosses and trial bosses and so on? So in other words to all pve content?

Does someone every use 2 trial 5 piece sets combined ? For instance ansuul and false god devotion ?

@El_Borracho @CGPsaint @yadibroz

CGPsaint · February 7

eMKa8 wrote: »

Do monsters include everyone? All enemies?
I understand its not pvp or players , but does it also inflict flat dmg to bosses and trial bosses and so on? So in other words to all pve content?

Does someone every use 2 trial 5 piece sets combined ? For instance ansuul and false god devotion ?

@El_Borracho @CGPsaint @yadibroz

Minor Slayer increases your damage done to Dungeon, Trial, and Arena Monsters by 5%

The 5-piece bonus for Ansuul's Torment increases your damage done against monsters by 7%. When you interrupt an enemy, you increase your damage done against monsters by an additional 7% for 10 seconds.

My understanding is that Minor Slayer is specific to dungeons, trial, and arena, whereas the 5-piece is all PvE.

I would personally not pair Ansuul's Torment with False God's simply because you have 1 wasted line where Minor Slayer is duplicated. I'm running Deadly/Ansuul's/Velothi and don't have sustain issues as long as there are synergies in group.

El_Borracho · February 7

@eMKa8 I agree with @CGPsaint, never pair 2 trials sets together. I would pair either with Pillar of Nirn or Deadly Strike, depending on the build. But there are a variety of other damage sets you can pair with

Even though the additional 7% on Ansuul's only applies to monsters, its pretty broad:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Monsters

I have no idea if a boss can also be a monster

eMKa8 · February 8

That would actually be a good thing to know if it also includes bosses …

Anyone else who knows?

The sets you both suggest are all medium , but i usually go for light because i am a magsorc.

Or do magsorcs also sometimes run medium instead?

El_Borracho · February 8

eMKa8 wrote: »

That would actually be a good thing to know if it also includes bosses …

Anyone else who knows?

The sets you both suggest are all medium , but i usually go for light because i am a magsorc.

Or do magsorcs also sometimes run medium instead?

You could run Whorl as your trial set with Nirn jewels/weapons if you want a light body trial set. Its a great set. Or go old school and run War Maiden or Mother's Sorrow with Ansuul's jewels/weapons, just need to be aware of the crit cap in trials.

yadibroz · February 10

El_Borracho wrote: »

eMKa8 wrote: »

That would actually be a good thing to know if it also includes bosses …

Anyone else who knows?

The sets you both suggest are all medium , but i usually go for light because i am a magsorc.

Or do magsorcs also sometimes run medium instead?

You could run Whorl as your trial set with Nirn jewels/weapons if you want a light body trial set. Its a great set. Or go old school and run War Maiden or Mother's Sorrow with Ansuul's jewels/weapons, just need to be aware of the crit cap in trials.

I'm trying to get whrol with using frostbite on warden to complete my ice mage build. So whorl don't fit well with others class

El_Borracho · February 13

yadibroz wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

eMKa8 wrote: »

That would actually be a good thing to know if it also includes bosses …

Anyone else who knows?

The sets you both suggest are all medium , but i usually go for light because i am a magsorc.

Or do magsorcs also sometimes run medium instead?

You could run Whorl as your trial set with Nirn jewels/weapons if you want a light body trial set. Its a great set. Or go old school and run War Maiden or Mother's Sorrow with Ansuul's jewels/weapons, just need to be aware of the crit cap in trials.

I'm trying to get whrol with using frostbite on warden to complete my ice mage build. So whorl don't fit well with others class

Whorl works great for almost all classes as long as you are doing a traditional LA rotation. The only one where it is a slight issues is Arcanist because of light attacks and the beam, but even then, you can make it work. Whorl's only drawback is a mobile boss fight, but that is about it.