So how many arcs do you have to do to get a part of one of these sets? In general, the EA sounds truly awful so I'm just wondering how much suffering must be endured to get the DK set...

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

So how many arcs do you have to do to get a part of one of these sets? In general, the EA sounds truly awful so I'm just wondering how much suffering must be endured to get the DK set...

you get 1 class drop from tho'at and 1 class drop from a marauder

so arc 1 has max of 1 class drop
arc 2 and beyond have a max 2 class drops

if you can clear arc 4 and all marauders that is 7 pc of class gear (if you wipe on a marauder, it will not respawn for the rest of the arc)

you can also spend archive currency to buy boxes for more gear (2000 fortunes for uncurated box for a specific set, 15,000 fortunes for a curated box for a specific set)

I'd actually say Arcanist, Nightblade and Dragonknight sets are worth the trouble.

Only because I'm a warden main, I'm going with that set first. Objectively though, the DK set is the most attractive.

DK set is strong since it has no cooldown and can go both offense and defense. I've run it in cyrodil with decent results. Although it currently has a minor bug that its major heroism can be turned off if you recast too soon-- this seems intermittent to me.

I don't think its overpowered since it requires you to use an earthen heart ability every 10 seconds and normally I don't slot as many of these abilities as I do to optimize the set.

Im not collecting any of them since I don’t do DK, but it seems like perma-magmashell tankiness is getting people high on EA leaderboards, so that’s balancing for you

As soon as my nightblade got the mask I was all set for RP, they’re ready to rob stagecoaches now

I have DK-tank, Stam-Sorc, Necro-Hybrid-DD, and Arcanist Healer character.

But only Arcanist class set is meaningful for my Arcanist Healer.
Other EA gear is almost garbage for me. I was wasting my precious gold material
for the Monolith gear. (/._.\)

Other dungeon and overland gear or crafting gear are far more better than IF-class gear.
No reason to farm Infinity Archive only for the gear.

@LunaFlora

LunaFlora wrote: »

i like monolith of storms for damage dealer sorcerers,
nobility in decay for necromancer tanks,
and reawakened hierophant for arcanist healers.

and basalt-blooded warrior seems good for dragonknights in pvp maybe? and tanks.
maybe soulcleaver can be alright for nightblade healers? but it reduces ultimate so not sure.

the other sets seem too complicated for me with all the seconds and stacks

have you actually tried the monolith of storms set? It sounds interesting but everyone I see who has experimented with it has said it is garbage, and as such, I've not spent any time grinding it out. Still working on completing my DK set collection right now.

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@LunaFlora

LunaFlora wrote: »

i like monolith of storms for damage dealer sorcerers,
nobility in decay for necromancer tanks,
and reawakened hierophant for arcanist healers.

and basalt-blooded warrior seems good for dragonknights in pvp maybe? and tanks.
maybe soulcleaver can be alright for nightblade healers? but it reduces ultimate so not sure.

the other sets seem too complicated for me with all the seconds and stacks

have you actually tried the monolith of storms set? It sounds interesting but everyone I see who has experimented with it has said it is garbage, and as such, I've not spent any time grinding it out. Still working on completing my DK set collection right now.

i haven't been able to try it yet no, haven't collected enough pieces yet.

edited to add:

i made my first comment on November 4.
the Archive was brand new, it hadn't released on playstation yet, and i just looked at the set bonuses.

looking at it again nearly two months later it seems pretty complicated, but it sounds like if it got changed a little it could be better.
like if the monoliths stayed for longer than 10 seconds, maybe 15, and if linked monoliths dealt damage every 1 second instead of 2.

It would require a lot of changes to make the set viable.

Myself and many others tested the set on the PTS (feedback was given via countless threads on the PTS section of the forums including the official class set feedback thread). All of us (without exception) reached the same conclusion, that the set, even at its most powerful iteration (during week 1 of the PTS) was still a 5 to 10% DPS nerf to run it over any of the other top DPS sets in the game and it was for multiple reasons.

The main reason it's so bad is because the design itself of the set is flawed. It is a set that wants to sit on the front bar because you want to keep 3 monoliths active all the time, but the skills required to proc it are back bar skills (hurricane/liquid lightning) or the execute that only becomes useful for the final 20% of the fight. The rotation just becomes extremely awkward and un-intuitive to run when using the set as well as creating a conflicting build set-up to get the most out of it.

Another reason was the set also does nothing until it has 2 or more monoliths active. The monoliths don't do anything themselves, its only the beams that do anything and they can't even be stacked.

The other main reason it is so bad is because the skills that proc it are bad with the exception of Hurricane (stam morph of lightning form) and overload (which has its own issues, particularly for group play).
- Liquid lightning is the worst DoT in the game because too much of its damage is tied to its synergy.
- Fury is a horrible execute that starts its execute proc far too late to be practical and its execute damage is barely above a frags proc which can be used at any health percentage while its initial damage is barely above a single standard DoT tick.
- Boundless Storm (mag morph) suffers from the U35 changes that made it tick once every 2 seconds as well as never getting its radius increased from 5m to 7m in U40 to match the new melee attack range of 7m, meaning it now doesn't even hit melee enemies.
- Hurricane is decent, but only because its AoE and DPS increases over its duration meaning it actually hits melee enemies and becomes a decent DoT against stationary targets.
- Streak has a ramping cost, meaning it cannot be spammed like a typical AoE ability would and it's design is as a mobility tool, not an AoE spammable.
- Crit surge cannot proc the set at all because it doesn't deal any damage.
The only real exception is Overload, but that is a toggle ability that adds to the complexity of the rotation due to managing ultimate levels and also takes away from atro uptime where the group major berserk is much more important to the groups DPS than overload + monolith could ever be.

On top of all the issues outlined above, the set got nerfed over the course of the PTS cycle. It got a flat 18-24% damage nerf because they changed its damage type from single target direct damage to area damage over time.
That is 12% reduction because it's no longer buffed by the shock staff passives + a further 6 to 12% reduction from not being buffed by the CP ran on sorcs. (I say 6 to 12% for the CP because some sorcs may run the AoE or the DoT CP, but it still loses the direct and single target CP buffs which are mandatory on sorc due to all of sorcs relevant class DPS abilities being single target and/or direct damage abilities).

The only "buff" the set got through the entire PTS cycle was the fix it got after the final PTS week (before the patch went live) to allow it to critically strike. A pitiful change to a dead on arrival set that needed a complete redesign from the ground up.

The common suggested changes from all of the feed back were as follows:
Easy changes (short term/easy/keeps current set design):
- Reduce tick rate to 1 second down from 2 seconds (standard AoE DoT tick rate).
- Allow monoliths themselves to deal damage around them. (1 of the main changes suggested here)
- Allow the beam damage to be stacked.
- Allow the set to proc every 1, 2 or 3 ticks instead of the initial + 5th ticks only. (The other commonly suggested easy change)
- Allow the set wearer to act as another monolith that the monoliths can tether to.
- Revert the changes to the sets damage types so it actually gets buffed by already slotted CP/weapon passives.

Harder changes (long term reworks):
- Change fury to be a standard instant cast spammable against enemies above 20% health, while keeping its current execute function/design against enemies below 20% health. (This was the main change of this type put forward in the feedback).
- Change the set to be an AoE proc around the set wearer (boring, but functional).
- Redesign the set to be like a Chain Lightning type of proc, where if an enemy is hit by a storm calling ability, a bolt of lightning jumps to a nearby enemy dealing X damage (Y second cooldown per target).

The real kick in the teeth about this set though, was it was supposed to be the set for no-pet sorc builds, but all it does is add more summons...

Lately, leaning toward only Arcanist/Necro/NB. Other sets are lackluster in their own stinky ways. Arc, NB sets are the least lackluster, and Necro is more lackluster than those 2 but still works. Basalt really isn't as good as people make it out to be unless you push IA runs with DK.

I don't find any of the sets compelling but DK seems to be the best by far. Many of them lock you into a role and have pretty uninspiring set bonuses.

a "class" set should be fun, I just dont see any of these as fun.

The only one I am actually using is the Nightblade one. I use it with Oakensoul and Ansuul on a overland build. It isn't by any means optimal, but it makes my Swallow Soul hit pretty hard with a low cost.

I tried the DK one, but within Infinite Archive I feel like Drake's is better since it also buffs your partner.

I tried the Templar one, but it takes too many stacks to do the cool thing, and it costs you half of your magicka.

I didn't try any of the other ones because they are too niche and don't fit with any current meta or any build I want to try.