They're usually bots if you see them in the beginning areas, and they're usually still wearing all the soul shriven gear.

If it was a multi boxer then why are his chars all attacking at the same time? hmm well that to me says bot. But either way to me they're both ruining the game.

Where's the challenge when you can run around with 4 chars? lol Multi boxers are just people that can't do it with one char... so I don't se how they can play better controlling 4 ...unless it's a bot. And with names like you posted it's has to be a bot train.

Buck wrote: »

lol Multi boxers are just people that can't do it with one char... so I don't se how they can play better controlling 4 ...unless it's a bot. And with names like you posted it's has to be a bot train.

IDK...I *could* multibox because I own 2 accounts. I owned 3 founders accounts on Tera...but I only multiboxed instances because I loath PUG's.

The GMs either don't care or won't stop it. I reported a much worse bot train in Rivenspire. Reported all of the characters invididually even. A day later they were all still there.

And there were a lot...like a dozen or more. The report feature feels like a placebo.

SadisticSavior wrote: »

The GMs either don't care or won't stop it. I reported a much worse bot train in Rivenspire. Reported all of the characters invididually even. A day later they were all still there.

And there were a lot...like a dozen or more. The report feature feels like a placebo.

There was a GM on last night out in the fields banishing those trains, so they are doing things. He ran a sweep through the public dungeons and then spent time running around out in the open fields. Sure, it's a stop gap measure while the programmers work on a more elegant solution. But it's fun to watch as thsoe bots just disappear.

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

The GMs either don't care or won't stop it. I reported a much worse bot train in Rivenspire. Reported all of the characters invididually even. A day later they were all still there.

And there were a lot...like a dozen or more. The report feature feels like a placebo.

There was a GM on last night out in the fields banishing those trains, so they are doing things. He ran a sweep through the public dungeons and then spent time running around out in the open fields. Sure, it's a stop gap measure while the programmers work on a more elegant solution. But it's fun to watch as thsoe bots just disappear.

The problem, IMO, is that they only do this on their schedule. We have no way of actually alerting them to the activity. So bot trains can run with impunity all other times.

I personally have never witnessed a single GM wipe in Rivenspire, and that place is always full of bots. I guarantee it will be tonight when I log on as well.

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

The GMs either don't care or won't stop it. I reported a much worse bot train in Rivenspire. Reported all of the characters invididually even. A day later they were all still there.

And there were a lot...like a dozen or more. The report feature feels like a placebo.

There was a GM on last night out in the fields banishing those trains, so they are doing things. He ran a sweep through the public dungeons and then spent time running around out in the open fields. Sure, it's a stop gap measure while the programmers work on a more elegant solution. But it's fun to watch as thsoe bots just disappear.

The problem, IMO, is that they only do this on their schedule. We have no way of actually alerting them to the activity. So bot trains can run with impunity all other times.

I personally have never witnessed a single GM wipe in Rivenspire, and that place is always full of bots. I guarantee it will be tonight when I log on as well.

Actually, when the GM came on there was an alert system wide that asked people to send him a tell of any activity he should look at. And, of course they do this on their schedule, it's not like they are going to ask us players what's convenient for us.

yes, how dare the customers demand convenience. Whats wrong with us. LOL

It doesn't have to be that way is my point. They can have players report bot, and if they see a cluster of reports in one area there is obviously a problem. Not only could this be done cheaply, but I am willing to bet there are tons of people who would do it for free.

SadisticSavior wrote: »

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

The GMs either don't care or won't stop it. I reported a much worse bot train in Rivenspire. Reported all of the characters invididually even. A day later they were all still there.

And there were a lot...like a dozen or more. The report feature feels like a placebo.

There was a GM on last night out in the fields banishing those trains, so they are doing things. He ran a sweep through the public dungeons and then spent time running around out in the open fields. Sure, it's a stop gap measure while the programmers work on a more elegant solution. But it's fun to watch as thsoe bots just disappear.

The problem, IMO, is that they only do this on their schedule. We have no way of actually alerting them to the activity. So bot trains can run with impunity all other times.

I personally have never witnessed a single GM wipe in Rivenspire, and that place is always full of bots. I guarantee it will be tonight when I log on as well.

Actually, when the GM came on there was an alert system wide that asked people to send him a tell of any activity he should look at. And, of course they do this on their schedule, it's not like they are going to ask us players what's convenient for us.

yes, how dare the customers demand convenience. Whats wrong with us. LOL

It doesn't have to be that way is my point. They can have players report bot, and if they see a cluster of reports in one area there is obviously a problem. Not only could this be done cheaply, but I am willing to bet there are tons of people who would do it for free.

My guess is that they are still scrambling to play catch up on the problem. They were caught off guard in a bad way. They are making moves though that at least appear to be moving in the right direction. Would i like to see a system like what you described? Sure would. And it may get there, maybe not. All we can do is continue the reports and hope a GM is on that we can messsage when we play.

They are powerlevelling those characters. You'll find those odd character names on P/L Gold/rare mat in-game email spam. The victims log into the ******.com website and actually give them real money. The gold spammer (or in this case power levelling spammer)then creates meaningless-name alts on an account. Those alts are operated by script. The alts also send out spam advertisements to drum up more business (since they will be deleted anyway). The character who has something like a real name runs around killing mobs and gathering resources from which rarer crafting mats can be extracted. The common materials are sold and the gold from vendors fuels to gold selling spam. Gold from players responding to those /zone advertisements for rare crafting materials adds more gold for the gold spamming.

So all those names we report using F1 for spamming are to mere disposable alts. The developer gets word of these and most likely can trace what accounts they go to. IF the powerlevelled character makes it to VR10 before that account is banned the customer/victim of the spammer will likely get the blame when the devs catch up. Then the spammer gets off the hook and the customer/victim is left holding the bag if/when the devs get to his case.

If the account is banned before the customer gains possession the spammer simply starts a new account and starts over from the beginning using all the gold and materials accumulated by earlier efforts. Its part of the cost of doing business.

It is clever, the customer/victims are fools, and the developer will have a heck of a time trying to stop it.

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

My guess is that they are still scrambling to play catch up on the problem. They were caught off guard in a bad way.

Well, it's kind of amateur if that's true. This should have been a COMPLETELY predictable problem. Considering it has plagued every other MMO since the beginning of time.

At least they are doing something, which is better than nothing. But this needs to be a priority. The bots are that big a deal...they are enough to ruin the game entirely by themselves. So I think the forum complaints will help because they will draw more attention to the problem, and hopefully Zenimax will devote more resources to it.

I saw a pack of them in the Rift yesterday, in the northeast, farming humanoids. A bunch of templars with names like asdfghjkl. They make me irrationally angry. Obviously it would not work to give players the power to dispose of them, but man, would I like to.