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So the new endeavors begin...
NoxiousBlight
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"Complete 4 Dungeons with a Guildmate"
Does anyone actually like this "with a guildmate" nonsense?
Looks like ZOS ignored the overwhelming feedback of the PTS that these "new" endeavors were a bad idea. In fact, there are no new endeavors at all - just more restrictive ones.
Man I love this game but stuff like this really frustrates me to no end. I figured they would add dungeons to the weekly because of the event and I was excited to knock them out, but now my excitement and fun is gone. All because ZOS insists on being restrictive rather than, you know, promoting fun or playing how you want. Did anyone besides the bean counters seriously think this was a good idea in the meetings? I really can't see the logic.
Sigh.
Does anyone actually like this "with a guildmate" nonsense?
Looks like ZOS ignored the overwhelming feedback of the PTS that these "new" endeavors were a bad idea. In fact, there are no new endeavors at all - just more restrictive ones.
Man I love this game but stuff like this really frustrates me to no end. I figured they would add dungeons to the weekly because of the event and I was excited to knock them out, but now my excitement and fun is gone. All because ZOS insists on being restrictive rather than, you know, promoting fun or playing how you want. Did anyone besides the bean counters seriously think this was a good idea in the meetings? I really can't see the logic.
Sigh.
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xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭to be fair, its an mmo. also, you can do the public dungeon group even in less than an hour.
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Lugaldu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm not in a guild so I just ignore it.
I just hope that at some point not all 3 weekly tasks have the addition "with a guildmate"...24 -
XSTRONG✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can understand that they do something like this, daily eneavors before useally takes 1 min to complete all three and you get free currency that cost rl money otherwise.
I havent loged in for a few days so havent seen the new endeavors, but doing 4 dungeons with a guildmate for a daily might be taking it to far unless they up the amount of endeavors.0 -
fizl101✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can understand that they do something like this, daily eneavors before useally takes 1 min to complete all three and you get free currency that cost rl money otherwise.
I havent loged in for a few days so havent seen the new endeavors, but doing 4 dungeons with a guildmate for a daily might be taking it to far unless they up the amount of endeavors.
Its a weekly, so its not bad at all especially during the undaunted eventSoupy twist11 -
KlauthWarthog✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am starting to think they have a quota of PTS feedback to ignore on each update.44 -
Diatonic✭✭✭We just got a few guildies together and knocked it out within an hour, when we probably would have done solo randoms otherwise.
This was much more fun after my initial negative perception of it!3 -
KlauthWarthog✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We just got a few guildies together and knocked it out within an hour, when we probably would have done solo randoms otherwise.
This was much more fun after my initial negative perception of it!
Yes, that one will be quick and easy with the undaunted event going on, and that is exactly the reason why they chose to put it in this particular week.3 -
demonology89✭✭✭✭Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.PS5 NA
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Katheriah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I mean, everyone and their mother is doing dungeons this week. It's very doable to just grab a guildie and do some FG1. I finished it because I was farming something, so it wasn't even on purpose.
Otherwise just do the pub dungeon.0 -
AstroST✭✭✭✭✭Another wonderful new idea, so when I will work during the evening I will be unable to do it.
You know ZoS that some of us works, sometime in the evening, sometime in the morning, things like that you know
Almost all my guildmates play in the evening so with this new wonderfull improved option I will be unable to do it.
Let's add more restriction in how people play, this is a very good moment, when wonderfull games have come out and we are bleeding lot of players.
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MageCatF4F✭✭✭✭I am not in a guild. And I won't be.
As long as they leave a viable option I have no kick. I'll do 7 public dungeon group events solo, or with my one trustworthy associate, or with unneeded random help.
I do look on with a skeptical eye. New players may not be able to solo pdge. I don't like the trend. But that has all been covered in the PTS feedback.
Edit: dumb typoEdited by MageCatF4F on September 11, 2023 12:58PM9 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's an alternative to the other two weekly endeavors; and as has already been pointed out, the public dungeon endeavor can be easily completed in under an hour-- actually, in well under 30 minutes if you do the group event in the Alik'r Desert public dungeon, which is easy to complete and which resets very quickly after it's completed.
I really don't mind this alternate version of the "complete X dungeons" weekly endeavor, as long as the other alternatives are easy to complete and don't include any new restrictions or requirements. ZOS has every right to try to encourage us to join a player guild and engage with our fellow guild members. And it might actually be more enjoyable to complere dungeons with fellow guild members than with random strangers, since we would have presumably been communicating with each other in advance about how we want to run the dungeon, as opposed to getting thrown in with three random players who are probably more interested in completing the dungeon as quickly as possible than in conferring with everyone else during the first few minutes to reach an agreement about how to run it.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
Anumaril✭✭✭✭✭I was annoyed with it when I saw it, especially since of all the options the dungeons were preferable to me. The other two options seemed boring. But because of the "with a guildmate" I couldn't do it and was forced to do one of the other ones.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Another wonderful new idea, so when I will work during the evening I will be unable to do it.
You know ZoS that some of us works, sometime in the evening, sometime in the morning, things like that you know
Almost all my guildmates play in the evening so with this new wonderfull improved option I will be unable to do it.
Let's add more restriction in how people play, this is a very good moment, when wonderfull games have come out and we are bleeding lot of players.
Orrr, just go do the public dungeon boss event one. That requires zero grouping and will likely take less time than 4 dungeons.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've never yet bothered with the weeklies outside of digging antiquities or harvesting nodes, so this sort of thing in the weeklies doesn't bother me. No, I do not and will not join a guild. No, I do not and will not do group content (as I'm not going to land my mega ping on others just for SoE - that would be highly unfair to them).
As well, I've never been too fussed if I only get 1 or 2 dailies. And no, I'm no longer buying crowns for crown store stuff. I'm still subbing by the month - for now.
It's getting to the point though that the sub may be the next to go.______________________________________________________
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✭KlauthWarthog wrote: »I am starting to think they have a quota of PTS feedback to ignore on each update.
Sadly at this point it feels like they're deliberately ignoring anything that players ask to be changed while on PTS.PC/EU, StamSorc Main11 -
shadyjane62✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭In the ten years I have been here I was in a guild for one month. A pvp guild that got betrayed by one of it's officers.
I don't do anything organized in this game that requires other people.
I like pvp just being able to join a battle.5 -
Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
Same here. Was there ever any explanation from ZoS about why this was changed? For pete's sake 150???????????2 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"Complete 4 Dungeons" - every one can do the endeavour.
"Complete 4 Dungeons with a Guildmate" - only guilds that actually play only with eachother can do the endeavour.
So it is less choice & more restrictions. I don't like it.
I could passively do the weekly endeavour... just by normally playing the game (hey, is it not how it is supposed to be ?) But no, I will have to side track & camp public group dungeon bosses - which takes additional time. Time that I have less & less.Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on September 11, 2023 2:11PM14 -
LokiPagan✭✭✭✭And here I was, happily thinking they actually listened to feedback from the PTS...guess not.
The concerted effort to make people buy more from the crown store - disabling gifting because of "fraud" and making endeavors more difficult and time consuming - they aren't going to work. People are just going to leave. I'm personally refusing to buy anything out of principle, but if the prices were reasonable, I'd absolutely buy plenty. $150 for a digital house is absurd.10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
Based on that change I have to assume that the devs are resource tower farmers.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Veinblood1965 wrote: »demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
Same here. Was there ever any explanation from ZoS about why this was changed? For pete's sake 150???????????
ZOS' reasoning was that the quest used to be 40 individual kills and now it is 150 group kills, so it should go just as fast if not faster, so long as you join a group. But that does not feel right. I swear I used to get credit for group kills even when it was 40. I mean, I have completed that quest many times and I am horrible at PVP. There is no way I was getting 40 killing blows. I had to be getting carried by my zerg.6 -
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✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
150 players in a week? Now thats something i will never complete unless i invite 10 friends and kill them 15 times lol0 -
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✭✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
150 players in a week? Now thats something i will never complete unless i invite 10 friends and kill them 15 times lol
No, that one is a daily from the conquest board in Cyrodiil.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
150 players in a week? Now thats something i will never complete unless i invite 10 friends and kill them 15 times lol
Even worse, it’s a daily
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
Lykeion✭✭✭✭✭After disabling the Crown et update, zos made it harder to get Endeavor, which is logical and consistent from a company strategy perspective. While this is bad news for the community4 -
EF321✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »"Complete 4 Dungeons" - every one can do the endeavour.
"Complete 4 Dungeons with a Guildmate" - only guilds that actually play only with eachother can do the endeavour.
I solo queued an got progress. Someone happened to be from one of the guilds, apparently.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭demonology89 wrote: »Yes, this is not that bad only because of the event.
My biggest gripe so far is the kill 40 players quest became kill 150 players. I'd like a few words with whomever thought and implemented that garbage.
OMG! Yes. I agree with you, that's an absurd change.Edited by spartaxoxo on September 11, 2023 2:25PM2 -
AlterBlika✭✭✭✭Grabbed free eso account during epic giveaway, already served me well on the zenithar event. I don't like these meaningless conditions at all, I mean, it's all soloable, why would I run such content with guildmates? Trials sure but dungeons?5
