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If you're not a speed racer, this is the worst event ever.
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Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.
The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"
Maybe I'm the problem.
No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.
I do the same, i ask or for this event i typically just run with my prog mates.
I really don't have a problem with a speed run, not at all. It just makes a huge difference when someone at the beginning says, "hey... speed run?" rather than just taking off and expecting everyone else just to follow them.0 -
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✭✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.
The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"
Maybe I'm the problem.
No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.
I do the same, i ask or for this event i typically just run with my prog mates.
I really don't have a problem with a speed run, not at all. It just makes a huge difference when someone at the beginning says, "hey... speed run?" rather than just taking off and expecting everyone else just to follow them.
I agree, it's really bad habit not to greet fellow players before doing content together. Takes less than a minute and shows manners.Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.2 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.
The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"
Maybe I'm the problem.
No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.
I do the same, i ask or for this event i typically just run with my prog mates.
I really don't have a problem with a speed run, not at all. It just makes a huge difference when someone at the beginning says, "hey... speed run?" rather than just taking off and expecting everyone else just to follow them.
I agree, it's really bad habit not to greet fellow players before doing content together. Takes less than a minute and shows manners.
Manners... yes!0 -
fizzylu✭✭✭✭✭
✭I feel like normal dungeons, especially non DLC ones, are always speedruns in this game. People can do so much damage that mechanics usually do not matter and from my experience, pure healers and tanks are rarely needed (I've even seen some vet dungeons go more smoothly because everyone was a DPS with some decent heals).... but I can see how people try to rush through them even more because they probably don't actually want to be there and just want their daily tickets or are farming reward boxes during this event, and how that can be aggravating for those who would like to take their time with the dungeons.... same way I get a little irritated during PvP events when I end up with clear PvE players in my BG groups. I still would never point fingers at those players though because the real issue is Zenimax's approach to event design.... which is basically just forcing people to do some kind of content they don't really want to do, rather than actually making new and unique features/gameplay for them like GW2 (MMO with the best events imo) and WoW does.Edited by fizzylu on September 9, 2023 8:35PM1 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭I feel like normal dungeons, especially non DLC ones, are always speedruns in this game. People can do so much damage that mechanics usually do not matter and from my experience, pure healers and tanks are rarely needed (I've even seen some vet dungeons go more smoothly because everyone was a DPS with some decent heals).... but I can see how people try to rush through them even more because they probably don't actually want to be there and just want their daily tickets or are farming reward boxes during this event, and how that can be aggravating for those who would like to take their time with the dungeons.... same way I get a little irritated during PvP events when I end up with clear PvE players in my BG groups. I still would never point fingers at those players though because the real issue is Zenimax's approach to event design.... which is basically just forcing people to do some kind of content they don't really want to do, rather than actually making new and unique features/gameplay for them like GW2 (MMO with the best events imo) and WoW does.
Yeah, I guess, during a non DLC run.
I've trained myself to do what is expected (from the dungeon). For example, I can solo most base dungeons, but I wanted something from Falkreath Hold so, I tried, and actually made it through. I know this will not be the case with all dungeons and this is why I want to do some groups.
I have not had a crack at the dungeons added this year (and even last year). And now it's too late for me because everyone will just want to speed through. My problem though, not anyone else's.0 -
fizzylu✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have not had a crack at the dungeons added this year (and even last year). And now it's too late for me because everyone will just want to speed through. My problem though, not anyone else's.
I did the new dungeons from firesong and Necrom on normal with a random group just this past week for the first time. Nobody was rushing through them, bosses even seemed a bit more tricky than previous dungeons. I ended up having to tank and heal quite a bit as a DPS to help keep the team up in two of them.
I did try one on vet during this event though and that was a huge mess, haha. We could not get past the first boss and I ended up having to take over tanking in that fight.... but I don't think you'll have a terrible experience on normal if you wait until the event is over, at least. Luckily it's not a long one.Edited by fizzylu on September 9, 2023 9:19PM2 -
Daoin✭✭✭other than one specific in coral on one tank then one dd then one healer, sitting the event out. no way im putting myself through the skip groups for masks1 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I always enjoy this event as an excuse to run dungeons, although I usually run them solo and go at my own pace. I've already collected some gear and motif pages I was missing.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭I have not had a crack at the dungeons added this year (and even last year). And now it's too late for me because everyone will just want to speed through. My problem though, not anyone else's.
I did the new dungeons from firesong and Necrom on normal with a random group just this past week for the first time. Nobody was rushing through them, bosses even seemed a bit more tricky than previous dungeons. I ended up having to tank and heal quite a bit as a DPS to help keep the team up in two of them.
I did try one on vet during this event though and that was a huge mess, haha. We could not get past the first boss and I ended up having to take over tanking in that fight.... but I don't think you'll have a terrible experience on normal if you wait until the event is over, at least. Luckily it's not a long one.
Thank you... to me, this is the best time, when a boss is absolutely kicking your a** but you stay together and regroup every wipe.0 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »I always enjoy this event as an excuse to run dungeons, although I usually run them solo and go at my own pace. I've already collected some gear and motif pages I was missing.
I do the same... but running with others is always so much fun... so long as they are like-minded.0 -
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✭✭I've been farming dungeons solo to fill up my sticker book, and honestly it's been a breeze. I'm 5 drops away from being done with all of the vanilla dungeons and then I'll be working on finishing all of the DLC dungeons as well. If friends want to join then super, but otherwise I'm rolling solo."Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs—horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."2 -
Snowy_Wyndra_Karn✭✭✭✭✭I've been farming dungeons solo to fill up my sticker book, and honestly it's been a breeze. I'm 5 drops away from being done with all of the vanilla dungeons and then I'll be working on finishing all of the DLC dungeons as well. If friends want to join then super, but otherwise I'm rolling solo.
DLC dungeons as well?
I can do a few, but if you want company with the latest, I'm always here.0 -
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✭✭I ran about 9 or 10 randoms on different characters yesterday and I'd say the speed runners can make them more annoying. There are still some people doing the quests and/or doing a dungeon for the first time. It's not their fault the event is on.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »I ran about 9 or 10 randoms on different characters yesterday and I'd say the speed runners can make them more annoying. There are still some people doing the quests and/or doing a dungeon for the first time. It's not their fault the event is on.
The rare times that I do run a dungeon in a group, I now make sure that I always drop the quest so I can try to do it sometime in the future when I won't have to rush through it. I made the mistake of accepting the quest a few times in the past, and while it was nice to get a skill point for it, I'll have to try running those dungeons on an alt if I want to see what the story was.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!0 -
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That is where guilds come into play and the need to be very social is not required. Taking the time to find a guild that is right for you pays off big for anyone who wants to do some group play.
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Major_Toughness✭✭✭✭Yes, that's the point of the event.
One of my friends and I have been farming normal DLC dungeons for sticker book as both fake tank and fake healer.
Although "skipping" trash packs is dumb, everything dies in a matter of seconds anyway.
Vet is a different story but has no value except for monster helms.PC EU > You0 -
ZOS_HadeostrymodGreetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it discusses events.
Thank you for your understanding0 -
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A problem many of us deal with, and many others refuse to believe is a problem. I personally just queue PuGs and hope for the best, but you're right it's a struggle when one or all decide to just buy rush, while it's your first time thru and you're trying to follow the Quest, or want to complete the secret bosses.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
CGPsaint✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've been farming dungeons solo to fill up my sticker book, and honestly it's been a breeze. I'm 5 drops away from being done with all of the vanilla dungeons and then I'll be working on finishing all of the DLC dungeons as well. If friends want to join then super, but otherwise I'm rolling solo.
DLC dungeons as well?
I can do a few, but if you want company with the latest, I'm always here.
Yes, DLC dungeons as well. Are you on Xbox/NA?
"Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs—horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."0 -
svendf✭✭✭✭It have been like this for some year´s now. Haven´t attent any event for two year´s or so - the dungeon event was the first I skiped, and now dungeons all together.
I was going to skip this event. I can solo the base game dungeons - well, most of them. It's enough to get my tickets. I also find it difficult being social.
But, I felt like being part of a group so tried twice. Both times, tank raced ahead. I tried to keep up but ended up dying to whatever they pulled.
Back to being a loner again.
You need to take care of yourself. Don´t do anything that will upset, you too much - if it is starting to feel bad, then stop.
Do you feel you are better intouch, with yourself by going solo - then do it. Only one to blame there It´s also a bit more easy to correct things, and at the same time laugh at it 0
