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Unplayable Race playable

Rampeal
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Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves. Add one race per faction and it would be marvelous.

Now I know some races should not be playable (Daedra, Satyr, Centaur, Minotaur, Dwenmer, ECT.), But it would give us variety in the game and explain it from a lore perspective.

What do you think? Vote down below and leave a comment on why you would want it or not.

Unplayable Race playable 116 votes

Yes (Let them live!) 😀
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No (If they die, they die) 😢
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  • Carlos93
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.
  • Soarora
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    I support Maormer playable race but bringing back species that are already extinct or soon to be extinct is a no from me.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Rampeal wrote: »
    Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves.

    Lilmothiit are extinct. Kothringi are extinct. The Fallmer are extinct. If you really want more playable Races you should pull from the pool of ones already present in-game and abundant. Reachmen, Maormer, or the different Furstocks of Khajiit.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.
    Edited by ArchMikem on August 16, 2023 9:23PM
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  • TaSheen
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves.

    Lilmothiit are extinct. Kothringi are extinct. The Fallmer are extinct. If you really want more playable Races you should pull from the pool of ones already present in-game and abundant. Reachmen, Maormer, or the different Furstocks of Khajiit.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    Well, two. Though Vyrthur's a vampire, he's still a Snow Elf. But yes, Serana and the Dragonborn erase Vyrthur from existence using Auri'El's Bow.
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  • Rampeal
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves.

    Lilmothiit are extinct. Kothringi are extinct. The Fallmer are extinct. If you really want more playable Races you should pull from the pool of ones already present in-game and abundant. Reachmen, Maormer, or the different Furstocks of Khajiit.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    Nothing is set in stone in TES lore. Dragon breaks do happen. Cyrodiil is suppose to be a Jungle, but it is a plains in the 2nd era created by Talos who has yet to be born...

    It is even stated, in lore, that many races such as the Limothiit and the Kothringi are still alive lead from Tamriel by the Imga during the events of the Knahaten Flu. So no they are not extinct.

    Maormer will never be accepted by any faction or territory. They are a universally hated race, so are many of the reachmen except the very few we find in the Reach in ESO.
  • Dr_Con
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    my gnome character approves of this thread

    but for real I would prefer to see polymorphs of every race, and go further to say there should be interchangable racial passives depending on the polymorphs. It's rather tiring to justify my dark elf tank and dps nord dk choices.
  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    I'd very much love to play a Maormer character, although those don't qualify as extinct in this game.

    As for the rest? Why not. Never liked the idea of setting the lore of anything in stone. It's stifling. I like to enjoy stories, not treat them as The Law.
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  • Monte_Cristo
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    I made a goblin toon using smallest size bosmer and the green skin.
  • jtm1018
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Goblin, sea elves, minotaur, lamia, harpies.
  • Blood_again
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Give us a Skeevaton character. Frostvault phase is not enough.

    It also would be great to have playable Manticora, Titan and... Strangler B)

    Well, I know what everybody's waiting for. A playable DRAGON!
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    PS: To be honest, it would be totally different game. It is not really about ESO.
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Yeah give us the race that built Blackrose prison and who were supposed to be scarcely around in the 2nd era..
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  • Anumaril
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    As much as I find some of the other races in Tamriel fascinating, especially the Ayleids, I don't think they should be playable. Not least because it would break with a lot of established lore.

    While we know that some snow elves survived their extinction, there's so few (only 2 that we actually know of) that making them a playable race would be ridiculous. The same can be said about the Ayleids. They didn't have an obvious mass extinction like the Dwemer or Falmer, so there's more of an argument to be said that there might still exist some isolated settlement. But odds are they don't exist, as a lot of Tamriel has already been explored, mapped, and claimed by one king or another. You'd also have the same problem as the snow elves: there'd be so few left that making them a playable race would be too extreme.

    I also really dislike the idea of pulling a Dragonbreak out of thin air to make anything you want happen. Honestly I think TES lore writers should lean away from such lazy writing in future games.

    Honestly I think the games should just stick to the main playable races, just like the single player games do. If ever the game expands to encompass the First Era, then those other races should be playable, but otherwise no.
  • amig186
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    This seems like a really unimaginative assumption to me. There's no proof that the hidden chantry of Auri-El in Skyrim housed the only group of Falmer survivors in existence, Gelebor himself brings up the possibility of there being more of them. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on his part, maybe not, we won't know for certain until the writers decide one way or the other. But it wouldn't be breaking the lore if ESO or any future TES were to reintroduce a small number of them.
    Edited by amig186 on August 17, 2023 11:50AM
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  • BloodyStigmata
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    Soarora wrote: »
    I support Maormer playable race but bringing back species that are already extinct or soon to be extinct is a no from me.

    Thought to be extinct isn't confirmed to be extinct, and that's something I have to remind everyone when they discussions come up in every TES forum.

    But yeah, as far as "extinct" races go there's a plethora of reasons for any that may or may not be left to not want to get involved in all of the politics and world-ending BS in this game to the point where making them playable would be near-impossible to justify.

    I also don't think the game really needs any more playable races balance-wise.

    That isn't to say I don't want them as options for customizing your character however. I think customizable polymorphs that let you change your appearance to another non-playable race would be good for the few who want to role-play as other races on their own without having to commit to implementing them in Tamriel in a lore-friendly way.
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  • AlwaysDancing
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    I want to play as a mudcrab.
  • CameraBeardThePirate
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    amig186 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    This seems like a really unimaginative assumption to me. There's no proof that the hidden chantry of Auri-El in Skyrim housed the only group of Falmer survivors in existence, Gelebor himself brings up the possibility of there being more of them. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on his part, maybe not, we won't know for certain until the writers decide one way or the other. But it wouldn't be breaking the lore if ESO or any future TES were to reintroduce a small number of them.

    But introducing a small number of them isn't the same thing at all as making them a playable race. The latter would contradict the lore. A lot, actually.
  • Hapexamendios
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Sload, I want to play as Z'Maja Jr
  • Rampeal
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Anumaril wrote: »
    As much as I find some of the other races in Tamriel fascinating, especially the Ayleids, I don't think they should be playable. Not least because it would break with a lot of established lore.

    While we know that some snow elves survived their extinction, there's so few (only 2 that we actually know of) that making them a playable race would be ridiculous. The same can be said about the Ayleids. They didn't have an obvious mass extinction like the Dwemer or Falmer, so there's more of an argument to be said that there might still exist some isolated settlement. But odds are they don't exist, as a lot of Tamriel has already been explored, mapped, and claimed by one king or another. You'd also have the same problem as the snow elves: there'd be so few left that making them a playable race would be too extreme.

    I also really dislike the idea of pulling a Dragonbreak out of thin air to make anything you want happen. Honestly I think TES lore writers should lean away from such lazy writing in future games.

    Honestly I think the games should just stick to the main playable races, just like the single player games do. If ever the game expands to encompass the First Era, then those other races should be playable, but otherwise no.

    Well see Dragon Breaks are a major part of established Lore. That is what happens when you try to split the personalities of a God. In fact it is most likely the entire 2nd Era is a Dragon Break. I mean we have had more World ending threats and activities happen in just 1 year of the 2nd era than all of the other eras combined. Yes keep that in mind, EVERY dlc and chapters has all happened within 1 year as confirmed by the developers.

    Keep that in mind. We are still in the year 582 and during that time all the following Dlc and Chapters have taken place. Not to mention we have seen different forms of Daedra and Atronachs take form in this time period in the form of mounts and enemies that was NEVER mentioned in lore. Not to mention the classes that never existed in lore before (Dragon Knight, Templars, and Wardens).

    Plus the history we get in the later Eras are fragmented, lost, or told by unreliable narrators at the best of times. So it would not be out of the realm of possibility that some of the extinct races to come back in the second era.
    Edited by Rampeal on August 18, 2023 12:27PM
  • TheNuminous1
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves.

    Lilmothiit are extinct. Kothringi are extinct. The Fallmer are extinct. If you really want more playable Races you should pull from the pool of ones already present in-game and abundant. Reachmen, Maormer, or the different Furstocks of Khajiit.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    The whole chantry should still be kicking
    If we had am eso dlc of the chantry there would be a hundred or more snow elves alive.
  • amig186
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    amig186 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    This seems like a really unimaginative assumption to me. There's no proof that the hidden chantry of Auri-El in Skyrim housed the only group of Falmer survivors in existence, Gelebor himself brings up the possibility of there being more of them. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on his part, maybe not, we won't know for certain until the writers decide one way or the other. But it wouldn't be breaking the lore if ESO or any future TES were to reintroduce a small number of them.

    But introducing a small number of them isn't the same thing at all as making them a playable race. The latter would contradict the lore. A lot, actually.

    I was replying to ArchMikem's post, because I've seen the same sentiment around here before, not talking about making them playable. But then again, why the hell not. If things like the 3 Banners War, Planemeld and Blackreach can become lost to history 2 eras later, then what's the odd 'pale elf' sighting here and there. If the race were to be sold in the crown store, then it would still be a lot less numerous than the free races.
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  • Sarannah
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    Would love some non-humanoid races: Lamia, harpy, automaton, goblin.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Anumaril wrote: »
    As much as I find some of the other races in Tamriel fascinating, especially the Ayleids, I don't think they should be playable. Not least because it would break with a lot of established lore.

    While we know that some snow elves survived their extinction, there's so few (only 2 that we actually know of) that making them a playable race would be ridiculous. The same can be said about the Ayleids. They didn't have an obvious mass extinction like the Dwemer or Falmer, so there's more of an argument to be said that there might still exist some isolated settlement. But odds are they don't exist, as a lot of Tamriel has already been explored, mapped, and claimed by one king or another. You'd also have the same problem as the snow elves: there'd be so few left that making them a playable race would be too extreme.

    I also really dislike the idea of pulling a Dragonbreak out of thin air to make anything you want happen. Honestly I think TES lore writers should lean away from such lazy writing in future games.

    Honestly I think the games should just stick to the main playable races, just like the single player games do. If ever the game expands to encompass the First Era, then those other races should be playable, but otherwise no.

    Well see Dragon Breaks are a major part of established Lore. That is what happens when you try to split the personalities of a God. In fact it is most likely the entire 2nd Era is a Dragon Break. I mean we have had more World ending threats and activities happen in just 1 year of the 2nd era than all of the other eras combined. Yes keep that in mind, EVERY dlc and chapters has all happened within 1 year as confirmed by the developers.

    Keep that in mind. We are still in the year 582 and during that time all the following Dlc and Chapters have taken place. Not to mention we have seen different forms of Daedra and Atronachs take form in this time period in the form of mounts and enemies that was NEVER mentioned in lore. Not to mention the classes that never existed in lore before (Dragon Knight, Templars, and Wardens).

    Plus the history we get in the later Eras are fragmented, lost, or told by unreliable narrators at the best of times. So it would not be out of the realm of possibility that some of the extinct races to come back in the second era.

    The second era is not a Dragon Break, this has been said numerous times by the devs. Dragon Breaks are very rare and there even is a quest to stop one from happening.

    Neither does everything happen in one year. Any part can start in 582 to fit that player, but time still passes. They're just writing all dlc to fit people who may want to have that has their beginning. Yes, terrible for continuation, but not everything happens at once.
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  • preevious
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    Lore-wise, immersion-wise, and roleplay-wise, it would be a catastrophe.

    I don't want the crowd becoming even more absurd than it already is with all the flashy mounts and weird costumes.
  • UGotBenched91
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    I would enjoy having more races. I understand why people don’t but I’m not attached to elderscrolls lore so it wouldn’t bother me
  • ThisOnePosts
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    If they can explain the mounts, housing system & everything else that goes on.. they can sure explain the lore for how any of these races may be found.

    It's a fictional universe, the writers can write in whatever they like.

    So yes, the more the merrier! You'd attract & keep more players with more options while maintaining the quality above par.
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    If they can explain the mounts, housing system & everything else that goes on.. they can sure explain the lore for how any of these races may be found.

    It's a fictional universe, the writers can write in whatever they like.

    So yes, the more the merrier! You'd attract & keep more players with more options while maintaining the quality above par.

    The problem is they can't do whatever they want. Anything they add or change lore-wise is likely beholden to whatever restrictions come from the main Loremaster over at BGS.

    It's the same reason why we'll never see Akavir in ESO - BGS doesn't want us to.
  • ArchMikem
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    Rampeal wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Rampeal wrote: »
    Simply put, Make more races available. How you may ask could we add other races like the Lilmothiit, Sinistral Elves, and the Kothringi? DRAGON BREAK CHAPTER. This would allow the races to be implemented. You could even bring back the snow elves.

    Lilmothiit are extinct. Kothringi are extinct. The Fallmer are extinct. If you really want more playable Races you should pull from the pool of ones already present in-game and abundant. Reachmen, Maormer, or the different Furstocks of Khajiit.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    Snow elves are alive in the fourth era, in the second era it is possible to find them.

    The size of the territory that is called Skyrim is bigger than in the games.

    Isn't it just one, Snow Elf is alive? And the Dragonborn lowers that number.

    Nothing is set in stone in TES lore. Dragon breaks do happen. Cyrodiil is suppose to be a Jungle, but it is a plains in the 2nd era created by Talos who has yet to be born...

    It is even stated, in lore, that many races such as the Limothiit and the Kothringi are still alive lead from Tamriel by the Imga during the events of the Knahaten Flu. So no they are not extinct.

    Maormer will never be accepted by any faction or territory. They are a universally hated race, so are many of the reachmen except the very few we find in the Reach in ESO.

    People claim the entirety of ESO itself is a Dragon Break, because of what Emperor Varen tried to do with the Dragonfire Braziers and Mannimarco's betrayal. Even so, IF the Lilmothiit and Kothringi do still somehow exist on Nirn as a viable populace, they do not exist on Tamriel. Making them playable thus allowing hundreds or thousands of them to start walking around the game world doesn't make sense. No matter how much I'd love a Lilmothiit character.
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  • DreamyLu
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    That's a recuring theme in all MMORPGs I know, but I believe there is no point. Simply put to avoid a long post: to add a new race into a long existing game is most probably not a business case for a game company, because the enormous amount of work (meaning costs and time) necessary for such implementation could never be amortized financially in a reasonable manner.

    This explains why, although it's continuously a point in forum discussions (no matter what game), over the years, at least for the games I play, new class/profession got added, but never a new race.
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  • Rampeal
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    Yes (Let them live!) 😀
    I know that it seems like I am complaining, but I am not. It just feels like Elder scrolls is more of a Post Apocalyptic game rather than a fantasy game. All the cool races are near extinct or just extinct and the rest are just basic vanilla variety. Sorry, but it is just the way I feel.
  • belial5221_ESO
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    No (If they die, they die) 😢
    I think with 5 main single player games,and ESO being around so long without adding playable races,I'm guessing there will not be more added.It also means for TES6 there will probably only be the 10 playable races without mods.
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