Dark Brotherhood's Death

Erissime · August 2023

Hello - this thread is a consequence of an issue I am encountering in 2 days now. I have had an alt on level 3 Dark Brotherhood, and willing to help another I decided to go there to show some dailies from within, seeing that access was formerly gained as per quest - etc etc.

To my surprise the door was impossible to cross, the "open" option greyed out, and the auto-message in the corner that "The uninitiated may not pass through this door. Turn back." in full display. To be sure one may not enter if one has not done the first quests - but then like I said I was already level 3. I dropped the issue and started today on a new char and in company that questline.

Surprise surprise! Both me and my partner after having gained access, having finished the first main quest and going on about Elam Drals first quest, we cannot deliver. The door is equally shot, and the message of refusal is there alright just like yesterday. This pretty much kills that entire dlc and no, reloging the game does not work. Talking to previous npcs does not work either, since they are no longer there ( checked thieves' den and Anvil docks - no Amelie or messenger), the lighthouse is empty and there's no way out of it. Please fix the Dark Brotherhood door!

Thank you!

LunaFlora · August 2023

i am confused about the problem

these are the dark brotherhood changes in update 39, which hasn't released yet.
it's access to the quests that doesn't require skill rank anymore. nothing about the door.

Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood vector quests now require you to be at least level 5. These quests are still available at any level within their respective zones.

Dark Brotherhood Sacrament Containers will continue to award sets in all slots and all weights for Sithis’ Touch.

Reworked all Dark Brotherhood guild quests so there is no longer a skill rank requirement. No more skill grinding needed to just do the story!

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/638012/pts-patch-notes-v9-1-0#latest

i looked through patch notes from updates 33-38 and there's nothing about the door so i ask you where did you see it and when did it supposedly change?

Erissime · August 2023

The upcoming changes have nothing to do with the problem I just stated. What is so hard to understand that the door can not be accessed? With all of the above details in regard to the condition required ( still) to open that door?

When? 2 days ago is when I started to notice. I have no idea when did it start happening in general ( as maybe others have encountered it as well!?!)

How? - as described above.

Why I wrote this? because it's a repetitive behaviour not only I have encountered.

And yes I see nothing about the door in the upcoming patch either. Nor are those announcements relevant to what I just described!

In conclusion, it looks like a glitch - and not a nice one at that. The whole lack of conditions for the quests available and what is announced to come still needs a door to pass through in order to reach the area! A door that apparently has issues with the opening!

And both I and my partner with which I've encountered this issue are way above level 5. Cp above 1k the both of us.

LunaFlora · August 2023

you said this
"seeing that access was formerly gained as per quest" but that's not formerly.
that's why i mentioned the actual changes to Dark Brotherhood and looked for where somehow there's a change to the door.

i think just read wrong and thought there was something about a change sorry

Erissime · August 2023

"Seeing that access was formerly gained" = prior to the issue - in case anyone is going to tell me that the door has a condition coming from quest to be opened, "as per quest requirements" - thieves den (Amelie)/docks/lighthouse/estate/lighthouse = password, officially open door!

Aislinna · August 2023

Do you still have access to the Dark Brotherhood DLC? Either through ESO+ or having purchased it? I'm not sure if you can enter and/or continue leveling up the skill line without having access to the DLC.

erdYrrson · August 2023

It's a stab in the dark - fittingly thou -, but the only quest status amnesia or dementia topic I have encountered in the forum recently is this one:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636606/quest-status-bug/

In this message you'll find a summary of sorts regarding the most common triggers for disrupting quest progress and thereby being cut off from already gained quest-dependable access to places.

[...]we have been making progress on pinpointing what’s causing it; we’ve found it frequently manifests itself after completing the Cyrodiil quest “Kill 20 Arcanists” or the Necrom quest “Tracing Shadows”[...]

As said, a stab in the dark...

Erissime · August 2023

Aislinna wrote: »

Do you still have access to the Dark Brotherhood DLC? Either through ESO+ or having purchased it? I'm not sure if you can enter and/or continue leveling up the skill line without having access to the DLC.

Oh yes! I wouldn't post something about the content I have no access to. Simply put, I started that quest line on a fresh char ( being an eso+ subscriber), last night. The day before I have already noticed it on another char who has only gotten as far as level 3 - she had that issue. I did not think much of it - but today I started as I said in company. And after having done all the necessary steps required for the opening of the door ( hence I was returning with delivery to Elam Drals! You cannot get to that npc if you do not open the door yes?) - this happened. And not just to me - to my partner also! (which has the content purchased - therefore also with full access to the dlc.

Erissime · August 2023

erdYrrson wrote: »

It's a stab in the dark - fittingly thou -, but the only quest status amnesia or dementia topic I have encountered in the forum recently is this one:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636606/quest-status-bug/

In this message you'll find a summary of sorts regarding the most common triggers for disrupting quest progress and thereby being cut off from already gained quest-dependable access to places.

[...]we have been making progress on pinpointing what’s causing it; we’ve found it frequently manifests itself after completing the Cyrodiil quest “Kill 20 Arcanists” or the Necrom quest “Tracing Shadows”[...]

As said, a stab in the dark...

Thank you for that article, but from what I gather it mainly points at achievements gone back to undone. This I am describing is an active issue affecting new chars about to begin this particular content, and quite actively disabling access to it. Other chars with the DB quests line done seem to be alright and can get there ( I have logged another alt through these past days lvl 9 on DB which had no issue going there - and my partner also has a lvl 4 DB with which can also enter) - so I do not believe it relates to achievements being turned back.