Zenithar Event daily writs reward boxes

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that ZOS didn't anticipate that Craglorn portal grinding was going to be a thing this year, that (as usual) it was the players who figured out the best way to reliably farm the most coffers in the least time.

As far as needing to be familiar enough with Craglorn to figure out the best routes to follow for the most portals in the least time, that's probably not terribly important inasmuch as players need to be grouped with a guildie, and it's likely that most of the guilds out there have at least a few well-established players who can help the newbies in that respect.

the craglorn celestial rifts (which i often like to term "newbie traps" for people who dont know they will get jumped) are considered world bosses

they are far more "dense" in terms of map distance than normal WBs in every other zone (there are some areas with 3-4 celestial rifts within walking distance for example instead of needing to wayshrine to go to a new WB)

addons such as map pins can also point out where the rifts are making it even easier to find out where the dense spots are

Panthermic · August 2023

vsrs_au wrote: »

I'm half expecting them to replace the word "account" with "player" for the next Zenithar event.

How about if account-wide bs were finally changed to server-wide in every existing place where it's being used incorrectly?

Al_Ex_Andre · August 2023

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that ZOS didn't anticipate that Craglorn portal grinding was going to be a thing this year, that (as usual) it was the players who figured out the best way to reliably farm the most coffers in the least time.

As far as needing to be familiar enough with Craglorn to figure out the best routes to follow for the most portals in the least time, that's probably not terribly important inasmuch as players need to be grouped with a guildie, and it's likely that most of the guilds out there have at least a few well-established players who can help the newbies in that respect.

The loot we get from the boxes are low level cooking recipes for the most part. So not really juicy, Craglorn can stay as far as my opinion goes, guildmate or not.

IIRC last year we got housing recipes for the most part from the boxes. Now that was juicy. SO this event was nerfed two times, the % drops (except Craglorn) and the quality loot. Would have needed to be nerfed only once imo.

But good they nerfed master writs to 7 per day, because I dont really want to collect them the year going and make my inventory full just for this event, I'd hate that. (even if I did that this year, not knowing the nerf

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spartaxoxo · August 2023

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that ZOS didn't anticipate that Craglorn portal grinding was going to be a thing this year, that (as usual) it was the players who figured out the best way to reliably farm the most coffers in the least time.

As far as needing to be familiar enough with Craglorn to figure out the best routes to follow for the most portals in the least time, that's probably not terribly important inasmuch as players need to be grouped with a guildie, and it's likely that most of the guilds out there have at least a few well-established players who can help the newbies in that respect.

Players were grinding Craglorn like that last year as well. I know because I did it both years. The Harrowstorms and such were more popular than Craglorn last year because they dropped their own good loot and were easier to get as many people in as possible. I did Craglorn often anyway because the loading screens made it more difficult to farm the storms, but sometimes I couldn't get Craglorn groups as only storm groups were available.

This year there's less people in Craglorn than there was at the storms last year as some guilds are grinding the world bosses instead.

Al_Ex_Andre · August 2023

Players were grinding Craglorn like that last year as well.

They did. Just that players who didn't, do that now at the cost of other nerfed loot events, and probably ZoS didn't know the Craglorn thing, because if they knew that, they would have nerfed it as well.

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that ZOS didn't anticipate that Craglorn portal grinding was going to be a thing this year, that (as usual) it was the players who figured out the best way to reliably farm the most coffers in the least time.

As far as needing to be familiar enough with Craglorn to figure out the best routes to follow for the most portals in the least time, that's probably not terribly important inasmuch as players need to be grouped with a guildie, and it's likely that most of the guilds out there have at least a few well-established players who can help the newbies in that respect.

Players were grinding Craglorn like that last year as well. I know because I did it both years. The Harrowstorms and such were more popular than Craglorn last year because they dropped their own good loot and were easier to get as many people in as possible. I did Craglorn often anyway because the loading screens made it more difficult to farm the storms, but sometimes I couldn't get Craglorn groups as only storm groups were available.

This year there's less people in Craglorn than there was at the storms last year as some guilds are grinding the world bosses instead.

Players were grinding Craglorn like that last year as well.

They did. Just that players who didn't that last year, do that now at the cost of other nerfed loot events, and probably ZoS didn't know the Craglorn thing, because if they knew that, they would have nerfed it as well.

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

spartaxoxo · August 2023

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

They did not nerf World Bosses. Rifts are world bosses, not world events. It's not really a bypass as they didn't nerf all of the activities. World bosses and arenas function the same as they did before.

Al_Ex_Andre · August 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

They did not nerf World Bosses. Rifts are world bosses, not world events. It's not really a bypass as they didn't nerf all of the activities. World bosses and arenas function the same as they did before.

I heard that World Bosses got a cd. There are no cd in craglorn. Did craglorn to my leisury yesterday and some days before, it's instant loot.

Al_Ex_Andre · August 2023

I heard that arenas is not a guaranted loot too, now. Only at the end of the last stage.

Blood_again · August 2023

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

I heard that arenas is not a guaranted loot too, now. Only at the end of the last stage.

It is mentioned in the event description directly.

You also have a chance to earn a Zenithar’s Delightful Parcel box when conquering each round of a group-based arena challenge while teamed up with a player who is a member of at least one of your guilds. Additionally, the final round’s reward chest contains a guaranteed parcel.

The same was in 2022.

Conquering each round of a group-based arena challenge while grouped with a player who is in at least one of your player guilds has the chance of dropping a box
The final round's reward chest contains a guaranteed parcel

karthrag_inak · August 2023

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I'm not trying to argue that one way is better or worse than the other; I just find it ironic that despite seriously nerfing the daily number of coffers you can get from daily crafting writs and master writs under the guise of wanting to prevent the amount of coffer grinding that went on last year, they simultaneously added a different way to basically accomplish the same thing if not more so.

However, your comment about the cost involved in doing master writs actually suggests a different possible reasoning for the change-- namely, last year it would have been more difficult for players to rake in the coffers if they didn't have a ton of master writs saved up, and/or didn't know the specific crafting styles and/or traits on the requested types of items, and/or didn't have the necessary mats and/or temps and/or style mats and/or trait mats, and/or didn't have a large amount of gold with which to buy master writs and/or crafting motif pages and/or mats. So last year's way of doing it basically made it very difficult if not outright impossible for new players or poor players to rake in a lot of coffers.

In contrast, this year's approach allows brand-new players who have no gold, no mats, and no crafting skills to rake in a lot of coffers to the extent that only certain players were able to do last year.

They added nothing for new players, they only took away to punish master crafters.

spartaxoxo · August 2023

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

They did not nerf World Bosses. Rifts are world bosses, not world events. It's not really a bypass as they didn't nerf all of the activities. World bosses and arenas function the same as they did before.

I heard that World Bosses got a cd. There are no cd in craglorn. Did craglorn to my leisury yesterday and some days before, it's instant loot.

World bosses did not get a CD. World Events did.

SeaGtGruff · August 2023

karthrag_inak wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I'm not trying to argue that one way is better or worse than the other; I just find it ironic that despite seriously nerfing the daily number of coffers you can get from daily crafting writs and master writs under the guise of wanting to prevent the amount of coffer grinding that went on last year, they simultaneously added a different way to basically accomplish the same thing if not more so.

However, your comment about the cost involved in doing master writs actually suggests a different possible reasoning for the change-- namely, last year it would have been more difficult for players to rake in the coffers if they didn't have a ton of master writs saved up, and/or didn't know the specific crafting styles and/or traits on the requested types of items, and/or didn't have the necessary mats and/or temps and/or style mats and/or trait mats, and/or didn't have a large amount of gold with which to buy master writs and/or crafting motif pages and/or mats. So last year's way of doing it basically made it very difficult if not outright impossible for new players or poor players to rake in a lot of coffers.

In contrast, this year's approach allows brand-new players who have no gold, no mats, and no crafting skills to rake in a lot of coffers to the extent that only certain players were able to do last year.

They added nothing for new players, they only took away to punish master crafters.

Yeah, I hadn't realized that the Craglorn portals worked the same way last year as this year, but now I see. My guess is that the Craglorn portals might get a cooldown next time, but who knows?

Elrond87 · August 2023

what is best thing ya had from these boxes anyway, a green repair kit and some blue food recipe

Necrotech_Master · August 2023

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

So the poster you quote is correct. Players figured a way to bypass the nerf, and this happens to be craglorn.

They did not nerf World Bosses. Rifts are world bosses, not world events. It's not really a bypass as they didn't nerf all of the activities. World bosses and arenas function the same as they did before.

I heard that World Bosses got a cd. There are no cd in craglorn. Did craglorn to my leisury yesterday and some days before, it's instant loot.

World bosses did not get a CD. World Events did.

i think that was because typically world events dont have a loot cooldown

WB on the other hand, already have a loot cooldown of 3 minutes

Syldras · August 2023

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Yesterday, I pickpocketed 125 items for the weekly endeavor.
Guess how many Reward Boxes I got?
2 ...
2, that was all... out of a bloody 125 ... I got 2.
That drop chance is nasty! Or there are hidden cooldowns.

Finally finished that endeavor today (split between 3 or 4 days). 125 items - no reward box. Not a single one!

SeaGtGruff · August 2023

Syldras wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Yesterday, I pickpocketed 125 items for the weekly endeavor.
Guess how many Reward Boxes I got?
2 ...
2, that was all... out of a bloody 125 ... I got 2.
That drop chance is nasty! Or there are hidden cooldowns.

Finally finished that endeavor today (split between 3 or 4 days). 125 items - no reward box. Not a single one!

Yeah, the drop chance from pickpocketing seems to be very, very low. I've gotten a few coffers from pickpocketing, but not nearly as many as I'd hoped considering how much pickpocketing I've been doing. I've also gotten a few from thieves troves, and I'm going to hazard a guess that the drop rate from those has been considerably better-- although finding a thieves trove to loot has been a challenge during the event, since any that spawn usually get snatched up as soon as someone sees them.

shadyjane62 · August 2023

Drops so low, the event is not worth doing.

The_Boggart · August 2023

All recipes are low level, and are not for master writs.
Also doing daily writs, for the event duration the RNG hasn't given me many alchemy or enchanting writs

SeaGtGruff · August 2023

I've gotten a few Alchemy master writs; I don't think anything has changed about the daily crafting writ rewards themselves.

As for the event coffers, I've gotten some pretty good rewards as well as some pretty lousy rewards. I've definitely gotten a few higher-quality recipes, blueprints, patterns, and so on. Typical RNG-- I'll get some decent rewards for a few days, followed by some lousy rewards for a few days.

PrimeSeptim · August 2023

Silly nerf imo.

Doing writs requires more effort than AFKing a harrowstorm surely? And I did that for many hours the first few days of the event and got many more parcels than I ever would've and with less effort than if I had been doing writs on every character.

rothan117 · August 2023

Apart from one Deadlands treasure map, the boxes have dropped nothing but junk this year. Not even worth grinding the boxes this time around.

SeaGtGruff · August 2023

I wouldn't say that they've been dropping nothing but junk. I mean, "junk" is a relative term that varies from player to player depending on what they value. Some players can ride past a Corn Flower without giving it a second glance, and other players are going to dismount lickety-split to pick that Corn Flower. One player's "junk" is another player's "treasure."

fizl101 · August 2023

I've had loads of treasure maps including telvanni maps, drops of 10 iridium grains several times, lots of recipes which were helpful for my second character, gold and group repair kits that always come in handy. The contents may not be everyones cup of tea but I wouldn't call them rubbish

PrimeSeptim · August 2023

rothan117 wrote: »

Apart from one Deadlands treasure map, the boxes have dropped nothing but junk this year. Not even worth grinding the boxes this time around.

If you farm for 12 hours or so like I did, you might get many different furnishing plans, companion gear worth millions, gold/Tel var, materials and the style pages which are worth about 40k or so. Of course, I no lifed the event 3-4 days and probably aged a bit in the process but I bought some more houses and I'm done.

boi_anachronism_ · August 2023

Al_Ex_Andre wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that ZOS didn't anticipate that Craglorn portal grinding was going to be a thing this year, that (as usual) it was the players who figured out the best way to reliably farm the most coffers in the least time.

As far as needing to be familiar enough with Craglorn to figure out the best routes to follow for the most portals in the least time, that's probably not terribly important inasmuch as players need to be grouped with a guildie, and it's likely that most of the guilds out there have at least a few well-established players who can help the newbies in that respect.

The loot we get from the boxes are low level cooking recipes for the most part. So not really juicy, Craglorn can stay as far as my opinion goes, guildmate or not.

IIRC last year we got housing recipes for the most part from the boxes. Now that was juicy. SO this event was nerfed two times, the % drops (except Craglorn) and the quality loot. Would have needed to be nerfed only once imo.

But good they nerfed master writs to 7 per day, because I dont really want to collect them the year going and make my inventory full just for this event, I'd hate that. (even if I did that this year, not knowing the nerf )

Nah man you could get drops of dragon rhume, and blood, jewlery platings and mats and a couple real good drops. I definitely did.