One of the only classes in the game were you need to use all of the utility passives and abilities to perform such as Fighter's Guild, Mage Guild, Psijic Guild, and Vampire (mostly for PVP, but now more viable in PVE). This class usually uses the least amount of its own skill line because they do less damage, and I am ignoring Blastbones because it's a requirement to run this guy (who wouldn't want to run him anyways).

Spammable has to be Silver Shards and the tethering skills are weak. One can argue the Scythe is good, but not really. It needs a buff. Buff this class.

Lack of summoning undead followers as a Necromancer is a joke. If the Warden can have the Wild Guardian or the Sorcerer have two daedric pets, why must our "pet," only last for 20 seconds? Not to mention, the Archer and Mage are useless.
Major Vulenablarity isn't that needed thanks to Arch Druid and Turning Tide. Granted, Necromancer tanks are one of the viable options for this class. If you look at trial groups, most of them do not have Necromancer DPS, and this is telling to the number of players that would rather play DK, Templar, Sorcerer, Warden, or Arcanist.

Thank you for making Glacial Colossus's cooldown to 170 and the changes to Beckoning Armor plus Ruinous Scythe's hemorrhaging, but we need more. The nerfing of Rapid Rot has hurt this class a lot and at least two classes receive buffs to their damage output (Dk and Sorc).

My suggestion would be to either increase Rapid Rot back to 15% or change the passive to 5% disease damage and 5% frost damage. Or simply making Flame Skull more effective over Silver Shards. You can also just give us a pet as an ultimate by revisiting the Reanimate>Renewing Animation. Would like to see a permanent "pet" that necromancers can resurrect. Using the environment would be a plus, but that's asking for too much from this game.

Another problem with the tethers is that you can break them if you line of sight them.

CreamedPieYum wrote: »

Magicka Necro, felt I should say this before people tell me I should spec into that

I tried to play it as long as possible but I gave up after today after hitting 50 lol. Too much micromanaging, keeping up with the tethers/consume corpses/summoning temporary monsters, just to stay on par with the other classes that are straightforward and don't have to juggle 7 skills. Damage doesn't seem to be enough, attacks just feel slow, corpses mechanic is ugh and this class has 3 main attacks? Slow as hell skulls, crappy blastbone pathing, scythe is the only half decent one but it's close quarters.

Was thinking of playing a DK, I haven't played one in a few years since my Xbox days but either that or Templar are better suited, tempo or speed wise. I tried nightblade but the main gimmick of that class is kinda taken away by stage 4 vamp and it's really good for pvp burst ganking type stuff, though that's it. Sorcerer, it's so and so.

That reminds me..why does a necromancer not have permanent combat fighters like the sorc does with the twilights? It seems to me this class isn't really a necromancer, more like a halloween based sorcerer.

garbage class, i'm doing all with my necromancer, i tryharded this class its fake tank, fake heal, fake dd, fake pvp char

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Skeletal summons really should be a permanent pet and have some special attack that make it worth slotting because it’s targeting is crap unless it’s 1v1.

Personally, I'd really not like having the Skeletal Mage and its morphs be permanent pets (because that would probably mean that they would have to be double-barred like the Sorcerer's pets and Warden's bear).

To make the summon more reliable, I'm wondering if the skill would work better if it was similar to a Single Target DOT with a 22 or 28 meter range though? Meaning you'd have to cast it at an enemy and it continues to shoot arrows/spells at that target every 2 seconds for the duration. Though the summon would still move with the player, as it does now, instead of being stationary.

I suppose the skill could still be broken by using LOS or moving out of its distance, but at least it will attack the player/monster you want to instead (as it does not appear to attack the closest enemy all the time).

Necromancer could easily be one of the most interesting and fun classes to play in the game but several of the skills like the slow throwing skulls are clunky and need to be reworked and dead bodies should work more like Crux's do with Arcanist to build up your damage. Necro needs another burst damage skill after what they did to Graveyard. Using a bunch of low damage dot skills isn't fun.

OtarTheMad wrote: »

BasP wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Skeletal summons really should be a permanent pet and have some special attack that make it worth slotting because it’s targeting is crap unless it’s 1v1.

Personally, I'd really not like having the Skeletal Mage and its morphs be permanent pets (because that would probably mean that they would have to be double-barred like the Sorcerer's pets and Warden's bear).

To make the summon more reliable, I'm wondering if the skill would work better if it was similar to a Single Target DOT with a 22 or 28 meter range though? Meaning you'd have to cast it at an enemy and it continues to shoot arrows/spells at that target every 2 seconds for the duration. Though the summon would still move with the player, as it does now, instead of being stationary.

I suppose the skill could still be broken by using LOS or moving out of its distance, but at least it will attack the player/monster you want to instead (as it does not appear to attack the closest enemy all the time).

For fun I am trying to come up with “my version of Necromancer.” One way I did skeletal was this: everything was basically the same except the duration was 30 seconds, upon summoning the skeletal and the caster gain a Flame Cloak which would do DoT damage to all around both for the duration it’s alive. I also thought maybe every 5 seconds you can active a special ability on a target that does additional damage.

That does sound cool. I was actually thinking of something similar when I imagined what a Witchhunter class would look like in ESO a week or two ago and I was thinking of a "mini game" that could be added to one of its skills. Though the Witchhunter would summon either a Flame Atronach or a Frost Atronach (that applied Minor Brittle), depending on the morph, and both would require a target (like my idea above for the Skeletal Mage).

But seeing as that will never come to pass, it'd be nice for a Necromancer For PvE I can imagine that a skill that would ideally be activated every five seconds might make its rotation even more tricky when paired with the Blastbone rhythm, but who knows.

making pets permanent will reduce sources of corpses and probably will require additional skill slots

BasP wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Necromancer could easily be one of the most interesting and fun classes to play in the game but several of the skills like the slow throwing skulls are clunky and need to be reworked and dead bodies should work more like Crux's do with Arcanist to build up your damage. Necro needs another burst damage skill after what they did to Graveyard. Using a bunch of low damage dot skills isn't fun.

Hm, I do wonder what a Crux-system with corpses would look like. Perhaps the Dismember passive could be changed into something like this (and the increased Penetration could be added to Rapid Rot instead)?

"When you create a corpse, you increase your Weapon and Spell Damage by 2% for 30 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. When you gain three stacks, the next Necromancer ability you cast consumes all stacks and deals 25% more damage or heals for 25% more."

I would go higher then that, 2% stacks up to a maximum of 3 is not much compared to how Arcanist skills almost double in strength with full crux, something like 50 more weapon/spell power for every fresh corpse within 30 feet up to a maximum of 10 corpses would be more appropriate.

I think the angle of perma summons is a bad one. Necro would feel way better with a army. It's skills should rev up damage, slowly calling more and more skeletons to the field until you have a small squad. Then you gotta keep cycling in new summons to replace the lost ones.Thats how it should work. Lot of expendable fodder. The corpse mechanic should be used to make more minions not power up *** spells no one uses.