Taggund wrote: »

30+ runs of Darkshade Caverns II to get the final Ebon Dwarven Wolf lead i needed from the Engine Guardian. I shudder at just the thought of that dungeon.

For me too, at least recently, since I struggle for this Wolf through my entire 2 weeks holidays and still cannot get the final puzzle piece. It's incredible how ZOS can complicate simple matters into something that completely draws people off the game.
I'm so close to the end, but slowly loose interest in getting this Wolf, and other Mythics. It's unbearable to have to endlessly repeat the same boring activities for a single drop from final boss. People doing this in PUG do not even bother to say hello or write in chat, just push forward to complete a dungeon and bail out without a word.

For me, I get an unsettling feeling when going through delves or areas where there are lots of spiders and even worse when going through and seeing human/creature wrapped/cocooned in webs. I avoid rivenspire area around the spider WB in particular!

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ArchMikem wrote: »

The Malabal Tor Questline. I hate it. I wish I could help the villain.

When you learn the backstory to the Hound, you realize who the real victim is. The Hound and the new Green Lady grew up in the same village. They were childhood friends and grew to love each other. But when she was chosen as the next Green Lady, her sense of Duty was stronger than her Love, and the Hound was betrayed, abandoned, devastated. Forced to let her go to be married to someone else. Everything he did, was out of pain and sorrow and a last desperate attempt to regain his other half.

And I killed him.

And they thanked me for it.

And the dialogue options forced me to congratulate the married "couple", as the Green Lady joked to me about the vigorous Honeymoon to follow.

UGH.

Huh, Ive actually always seen that one differently. She went a different path, and he decided for her that she'll do what he wants, or else.

Instead of accepting her decision and finding someone else, he went WAY beyond stalking, kidnapping, murder etc, all because he didn't respect her enough to move on. He didn't care about her feelings, so his "love" was questionable. He only cared about how HE felt and he got snubbed. Ego. He was childish, immature, controlling, and completely psychotic. He could have let her enjoy her "vigorous honeymoon" and gone to see the world, instead he had to be put down like a rabid dog.

But then again, I'm getting up there in years. Perhaps I've just gotten too cynical to weep over unrequited love like I might have 35-40years ago?

Lumenn wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The Malabal Tor Questline. I hate it. I wish I could help the villain.

When you learn the backstory to the Hound, you realize who the real victim is. The Hound and the new Green Lady grew up in the same village. They were childhood friends and grew to love each other. But when she was chosen as the next Green Lady, her sense of Duty was stronger than her Love, and the Hound was betrayed, abandoned, devastated. Forced to let her go to be married to someone else. Everything he did, was out of pain and sorrow and a last desperate attempt to regain his other half.

And I killed him.

And they thanked me for it.

And the dialogue options forced me to congratulate the married "couple", as the Green Lady joked to me about the vigorous Honeymoon to follow.

UGH.

Huh, Ive actually always seen that one differently. She went a different path, and he decided for her that she'll do what he wants, or else.

Instead of accepting her decision and finding someone else, he went WAY beyond stalking, kidnapping, murder etc, all because he didn't respect her enough to move on. He didn't care about her feelings, so his "love" was questionable. He only cared about how HE felt and he got snubbed. Ego. He was childish, immature, controlling, and completely psychotic. He could have let her enjoy her "vigorous honeymoon" and gone to see the world, instead he had to be put down like a rabid dog.

But then again, I'm getting up there in years. Perhaps I've just gotten too cynical to weep over unrequited love like I might have 35-40years ago?

That's how I saw it too, but there again, I'm also older and maybe "mellowed out" about things like that.

Tavern in bangkorai

ArchMikem wrote: »

The Malabal Tor Questline. I hate it. I wish I could help the villain.

When you learn the backstory to the Hound, you realize who the real victim is. The Hound and the new Green Lady grew up in the same village. They were childhood friends and grew to love each other. But when she was chosen as the next Green Lady, her sense of Duty was stronger than her Love, and the Hound was betrayed, abandoned, devastated. Forced to let her go to be married to someone else. Everything he did, was out of pain and sorrow and a last desperate attempt to regain his other half.

And I killed him.

And they thanked me for it.

And the dialogue options forced me to congratulate the married "couple", as the Green Lady joked to me about the vigorous Honeymoon to follow.

UGH.

This^ While i admit he really did go way over the top and everything he did was inexcusable to say the least, I do wish that Gwaering could have shown at least shown a bit of pity at the end instead of the cause of his actions being completely overlooked by the end of the storyline.

I also think this whole ordeal might have been prevented, had she made an effort to reach out and console him. Help him see reason, rather than just push him aside.

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

When you had to kill Little Leaf. I didn't like that at all. There should have been a way around that. Also all the dead NPCs after someone has been on a murder spree. It just seems all wrong to me. There is enough of that in the real world already, why promote it in a video game. Point of fact I have never played the Dark Brotherhood through since Oblivion. Just feels, how shall I put it, not very pleasant.

There's a silver lining to the Dark Brotherhood questline. Most, if not all your targets are people who have it coming one reason or another. Religious Zealots or bloodthirsty Pirates. When I went through it, I viewed it as using the Brotherhood for my own ends, the benefit of Colovia.

ArchMikem wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The Malabal Tor Questline. I hate it. I wish I could help the villain.

When you learn the backstory to the Hound, you realize who the real victim is. The Hound and the new Green Lady grew up in the same village. They were childhood friends and grew to love each other. But when she was chosen as the next Green Lady, her sense of Duty was stronger than her Love, and the Hound was betrayed, abandoned, devastated. Forced to let her go to be married to someone else. Everything he did, was out of pain and sorrow and a last desperate attempt to regain his other half.

And I killed him.

And they thanked me for it.

And the dialogue options forced me to congratulate the married "couple", as the Green Lady joked to me about the vigorous Honeymoon to follow.

UGH.

Huh, Ive actually always seen that one differently. She went a different path, and he decided for her that she'll do what he wants, or else.

Instead of accepting her decision and finding someone else, he went WAY beyond stalking, kidnapping, murder etc, all because he didn't respect her enough to move on. He didn't care about her feelings, so his "love" was questionable. He only cared about how HE felt and he got snubbed. Ego. He was childish, immature, controlling, and completely psychotic. He could have let her enjoy her "vigorous honeymoon" and gone to see the world, instead he had to be put down like a rabid dog.

But then again, I'm getting up there in years. Perhaps I've just gotten too cynical to weep over unrequited love like I might have 35-40years ago?

I detect some passive aggression there.

The love depicted was mutual and genuine by all means, not unrequited, in the beginning, but the Green Pact and the demands of her People's traditions ripped her away, and she then gave no resistance. Not only did he lose a love that was real in the moment, he was betrayed too, left to suffer in his tragedy and shattered heart. Everything that happened after, his fall to Hircine, his "evil" machinations. All born from an unjust cruelty to him. I'm not telling you to agree with him, but he should not be misunderstood. And on calling him childish, immature, and psychotic over not just accepting it and walking away, remember, some people have actually died from a broken heart. The turmoil is that powerful.

Not seeing any passive aggression there, nor was there any meant, so um no?

And as she's obviously not too tore up over it, it's HIS ego and broken heart. Trying to force someone into being with you, even going so far as to murder people to accomplish that goal? Seems childish, immature, and psychotic to ME. I honestly don't know in what society that's acceptable where women have rights?

I get it, you seem to view it from the romantic tragedy, like Romeo/Juliet. Some of us though see a woman moving on with her new life, even looking forward to it, while he just wants to force his way, no matter what she says. It's one of the great things about ESO. Situations that people can have different opinions about.

I play only solo and wanted to do normal Cradle of Shadows with Isobel (as a tank) to check if there was any lore/story related to Morrowind chapter which I was just starting at the time, getting through that boss that has a one shot attack took 2 or 3 days of attempts, and then I finally got lucky and beat him once but then found that the final boss also had a one shot mechanic so it took me a while to find that you had to not move and block that attack. I ended up finishing the dungeon in the same session, but it lasted like 5 hours, was really tired after that. It kind of put me off doing DLC dungeons, but I understand the others are not as hard to solo on normal. I still have some base game dungeons I haven't got around to trying yet anyway. I think the Telvanni Efficiency set will make things easier for these kinds of scenarios moving forward.

The only dungeon I've not been able to complete so far is Blackheart Haven because of that final boss ability that turns you into a skeleton, I wonder if the companion can provoke the boss so he uses that move on the companion instead. I heard you can also survive being a skeleton by being a tank with a lot of health, which I'm not.

Lumenn wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Lumenn wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The Malabal Tor Questline. I hate it. I wish I could help the villain.

When you learn the backstory to the Hound, you realize who the real victim is. The Hound and the new Green Lady grew up in the same village. They were childhood friends and grew to love each other. But when she was chosen as the next Green Lady, her sense of Duty was stronger than her Love, and the Hound was betrayed, abandoned, devastated. Forced to let her go to be married to someone else. Everything he did, was out of pain and sorrow and a last desperate attempt to regain his other half.

And I killed him.

And they thanked me for it.

And the dialogue options forced me to congratulate the married "couple", as the Green Lady joked to me about the vigorous Honeymoon to follow.

Huh, Ive actually always seen that one differently. She went a different path, and he decided for her that she'll do what he wants, or else.

Instead of accepting her decision and finding someone else, he went WAY beyond stalking, kidnapping, murder etc, all because he didn't respect her enough to move on. He didn't care about her feelings, so his "love" was questionable. He only cared about how HE felt and he got snubbed. Ego. He was childish, immature, controlling, and completely psychotic. He could have let her enjoy her "vigorous honeymoon" and gone to see the world, instead he had to be put down like a rabid dog.

But then again, I'm getting up there in years. Perhaps I've just gotten too cynical to weep over unrequited love like I might have 35-40years ago?

I detect some passive aggression there.

The love depicted was mutual and genuine by all means, not unrequited, in the beginning, but the Green Pact and the demands of her People's traditions ripped her away, and she then gave no resistance. Not only did he lose a love that was real in the moment, he was betrayed too, left to suffer in his tragedy and shattered heart. Everything that happened after, his fall to Hircine, his "evil" machinations. All born from an unjust cruelty to him. I'm not telling you to agree with him, but he should not be misunderstood. And on calling him childish, immature, and psychotic over not just accepting it and walking away, remember, some people have actually died from a broken heart. The turmoil is that powerful.

Not seeing any passive aggression there, nor was there any meant, so um no?

And as she's obviously not too tore up over it, it's HIS ego and broken heart. Trying to force someone into being with you, even going so far as to murder people to accomplish that goal? Seems childish, immature, and psychotic to ME. I honestly don't know in what society that's acceptable where women have rights?

I get it, you seem to view it from the romantic tragedy, like Romeo/Juliet. Some of us though see a woman moving on with her new life, even looking forward to it, while he just wants to force his way, no matter what she says. It's one of the great things about ESO. Situations that people can have different opinions about.

Most Monsters we despise are the ones we create. The Hound was corrupted and driven to desperate madness by everyone around him, including the Woman he loved. I feel you're viewing me as accepting his actions. I do not. But I understand them, and I pity him immensely. He needed time, consolation, affirmation, reassurance. He needed to not be cast aside. If your partner of years whom you loved, and loved you one day came home, told you they'd been chosen by the Nation to fulfill this position that required them to Marry someone else and that the two of you were now done. No more love, you have no say in the matter, your feelings have no value anymore, and everyone expects you to accept it. Your world, what you've known for years, thrown in the trash in a day. We're not talking kids with a crush here, these are adult characters with a long History, and nothing about this story is concerning infringing on the Green Lady's rights? Frankly, it's not even the Hound that's solely violating her right to choose her future. It's the Green Pact taking away her right to choose. She "looks forward" to it mainly because she has no choice in the matter, it's an obligation to her people that must be obeyed.

Honestly. In the end, I wouldn't help the Hound to succeed in his plans to bind her to him. But I'd at least want to save him. The character deserves to be saved, if not from his people, then from himself.

Not really unsettling, just personally upsetting but, the quest in (either Grahtwood or Greenshade, exact place escapes me now) where you have to help a little ghost kid. I accidently binded him to the flesh atronarch.
I did that quest in 2018-2019 or so, and here in 2023 I am still unable to teleport to the wayshrine there or go anywhere near

For a place I found actual unsettling, I would say there's this delve? mansion? something? in one of the newer zones, can't honestly remember if it's Western Skyrim or Blackwood, but the walls bear the sound of someone whispering

Sometimes, the random nonsense in zone chats

Other than that, exploring a map on a baby character, with no flippin mount speed, and knowing it is going to take all of your life to reach the next wayshrine

Taggund wrote: »

30+ runs of Darkshade Caverns II to get the final Ebon Dwarven Wolf lead i needed from the Engine Guardian. I shudder at just the thought of that dungeon.

Bad Man's Hollows and farming to get all 3 codexes unlocked for both Pale Order and Wild Hunt rings.

I'm so glad we're getting achievements for that now.