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How much Stealth Detection Reduction is too much?

lazloarcadia
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Lets look at stealth detection as it applies to NPCs while overland questing, sneaking through dungeons (mostly skyshard hunting), etc. Further let's stay focused on the Stealth mechanic, vs other related mechanics like Invisibility.

I'm trying to understand how much stealth reduction we currently need to basically push NPC detection off the chart and effectively gain a 0 meter detection distance. Secondary question is CAN we effectively reduce the detection meter to 0, or have some NPCs been designed with a minimum detection range that can't be reduced?

Years ago the NPC default detection range (for normal NPCs at least) was about 8m, but I don't know if that is still accurate now in June 2023.

Armor sets for Detection Radius Reduction:
Vesture of Darloc Brae @ 4 pieces gives -2m
Night Terror @ 3 piece gives -2m
Night Mother's Embrace @ 5 pieces gives -2m

Passive stealth improvements include:
Khajiit passive gives -3m
CP Out of Sight gives -3m
Medium Armor Improved Sneak Passive -35% detection radius ( -3m?)

If you used all of the above you could achieve an impressive -15m reduction!!. But is this "enough", "not enough", too much, etc? At what point should we simply stop stacking these effects?


NOTE: Positioning also seems to offer a huge bonus when approaching an NPC from behind.
  • Nestor
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    Thing about PVE Stealth, it is not really, although somewhat being unseen, it is being noticed. Which is why your combat actions take you from Stealth and some NPCs are harder to steal from.

    That being said, I can go mostly unnoticed through a dungeon with Night Terror 3 Piece and Mothers Embrace 5 Piece.

    However line of sight will still get you detected in some cases. Whether you grab agro or not in that situation depends on the NPCs Security level and their aggro settiing.

    Edited by Nestor on June 11, 2023 12:39AM
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  • lazloarcadia
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    Are you using any of the above mentioned passives, or just the armor?
  • lazloarcadia
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    The armor would give you a detection reduction of about -4m, but with that full set of passives you are closer to -13m. That makes an obviously big difference. Just curious as to your load out.
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