at first i could not stop playing, for me the reason i stopped playing is theres just not enough time to keep on playing constantly without carrying on doing the things i have enjoyed more over the years so its not a thing that just fits in nicely with, if for example you X amount of time for eso each day. even making a change to rewards would not make me play again. I dont think the people stopped because its seen as a gimic, as you said yourself you enjoy it and are hooked, but made a decision that time spent doing something else was better. some guilds have a ToT night with a dedicated few hours. but that about as main stream popular as it will ever get.

I think theres good rewards from ToT, I just think ZOS added it for themselves. I want the rewards but it’s such an out of place activity that I forget it exists. Haven’t played since it’s release.

Alternative: Mobile app. Allow account linking and cross-play. Allow guest players (non ESO players). Earn rewards while you're away from the game, as well as refreshing & boosting the player pop. Drastically lower ranked and casual queue times.

I play every day, twice a day-- or once a day on two servers-- but I play the NPCs. I'd guess that on average it takes me 30 to 45 minutes to play 3 matches, which is short enough that it doesn't interfere with the other things I want to do in the game.

As far as playing against other players, I tried that briefly with the intention of just winning 1 game each day for the daily, but it generally took me a few losses before I could get my 1 win, so with having to wait for the queue plus having to play multiple matches just to get 1 win, it took longer than I'd have preferred.

With respect to the suggestion about AP, my first impulse is to say that one's Alliance has nothing to do with it, hence AP does not make sense. But one's Alliance has nothing to do with Battlegrounds, either, so... sure, why not?

i think people who don't like tales of tribute don't like other card games either

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I believe that many players are quitting because of the absurd ranking system.

This is exactly why I quit playing.

We have asked multiple times about how this system works and I would still like and official explanation, but at this point even a new ranking system probably wouldn't bring me back.

if the made x5 rheum a 100% drop after every match i would play again after some thought probably a few matches per week

Adding AP would be more just to benefit those already playing, and not to attract new players. I don't think it would help with retention either, as there must be other issues with ToT leading to the dropoff of players.

Personally, I'd keep playing Cyro for my AP. I'm here to play a MMORPG, not a card game. I have not played ToT since the first week it was introduced, with the exception of one quest that forced us to play a game. I don't see that changing regardless of the reward (same as nothing will get me to do Trials, even though they have nice rewards).

It would get more popular if it could by played through an app. As it stands, it competes with other activities for in-game time. and the other activities win.
Changing the reward only goes so far when the activity itself is not interesting enough.

Being able to play through an app is nice, but I'd love to see the rewards, points and achievements be open to NPC matches too.

The main issue isn't rewards. Its design. ToT is just poorly designed. Yes, there's some people who like it. But if this was a stand alone card game, it would've died by now

1. Almost half the patrons and just frustrating and unfun to play against. Especially Orgum
2. Balance is a disaster
3. Developers don't want to put resources into fixing it because it wont help sell any expansions
4. Excessive RNG ruins many matches
5. PvP matches just last way too long
6. Lack of players = people who are way high in ranks fighting people who are more than a few hundred below them in rank

Seriously I'm actually amazed how bad this game has become and how they seem to not care at fixing it. At all.

Past four matches it seems like I've fought against orgum. I don't know what happened. But everyone is choosing that patron now. I'm so over it. I really want to like ToT. But god damn everytime I play it I think "What amateur designed this and why do they refuse to fix it".

I mean the top complaint is the RNG situation and how they 1-3 early game turns basically decide the win in some cases. They recognized this and instead of fixing it, they try to make it into a "feature" to sell Necrom with a new ToT patrom. Which didn't solve the issue and made it worse.

It legitimately frustrates me how they think this mini game is in a good state.

ToT will continue to die with small bumps for new Patron releases. Then once people realize nothing has changed, it goes back to the dumpster bin.