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Idea about new skill line involving Thu'um
ZDunlain
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Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
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Mr_Jord_Joe✭✭✭Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Kinda strange to me, it would sound like everyone was chosen by akatosh as a dragonborn (even people who don't have dragon blood can learn it)... the only thing I hope and that has a high chance of happening, is a new skill line from the winterhold school of magic! (Even fearing that place would only be another point for the mages guild)
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✭✭✭✭✭Nope. No dragonborn stuff second era.______________________________________________________
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LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.9 -
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✭Careful, the lore police will arrest you if you say stuff like "The Dragonborn in Skyrim could have been Emperor".
Beyond that, I think the Thu'um is too broken for use in an MMO. Give us something Winterhold themed and I'm fine with it. Maybe a nice new Mage centric skill line, or here's something even better, a Companions skill line from Whiterun. You could even use it as an excuse to beef up the Werewolf tree by adding a splinter faction that embraces the beast blood. Sure it's a lot earlier than what Skyrim tells us, but it's not like every event ever is factually made note of and kept around for future generations.- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
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ZDunlain✭✭✭Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Kinda strange to me, it would sound like everyone was chosen by akatosh as a dragonborn (even people who don't have dragon blood can learn it)... the only thing I hope and that has a high chance of happening, is a new skill line from the winterhold school of magic! (Even fearing that place would only be another point for the mages guild)
Hmmm yes but knowing that lot of Draugurs can use the Thu'um and also some important characters in Skyrim (like Ebony warrior, Ulfric, Miraak, grey beards and visions of the past where lots of nords fights and shout agains Alduin in the Throat of the World...) makes feel like you are not really "The last dragonborn". So in my opinion it is not really strange but yes, it could be kinda strange see all people in trials/Cyrodiil using it.Only Templar PvP player0 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
Then not literally Dragonborns, just like grey beards, just not dragonborns that can learn Thu'um. And I didnt say specifically "Dragonborn" in the top message so... I think it could be possible imo.Only Templar PvP player0 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
Then not literally Dragonborns, just like grey beards, just not dragonborns that can learn Thu'um. And I didnt say specifically "Dragonborn" in the top message so... I think it could be possible imo.
Well if it were so easy to learn Th'ums why wouldn't Varen Aquilarius learn a Th'um before him and Mannimarco used the Amulet of Kings?
Learning a Th'um would've at least made him seem dragonborn.0 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
Then not literally Dragonborns, just like grey beards, just not dragonborns that can learn Thu'um. And I didnt say specifically "Dragonborn" in the top message so... I think it could be possible imo.
Well if it were so easy to learn Th'ums why wouldn't Varen Aquilarius learn a Th'um before him and Mannimarco used the Amulet of Kings?
Learning a Th'um would've at least made him seem dragonborn.
Well, you said normal mortals needs almost an entire life dedicated to learn shouts and Varen is not near to be old and also he is not Dragonborn so he cannot be Emperor by any way (almost a true one).
Also our characters are Vestiges, Meridia champions with great power, not just a mere mortal, so in that way we are heroes and also "daedra-ish" so the vestige is in some way inmortal as far as I can remember.Only Templar PvP player0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
Then not literally Dragonborns, just like grey beards, just not dragonborns that can learn Thu'um. And I didnt say specifically "Dragonborn" in the top message so... I think it could be possible imo.
All dragonborn can learn Thu'um. Everyone can learn Thu'um. Dragonborns just does it easier than anyone, while non-dragonborns need to spend years learning a/few words.
Thu'um doesn't fit as a skilline because it's mainly taught by the Greybeards and it will take years and great discipline to learn it.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!6 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
Then not literally Dragonborns, just like grey beards, just not dragonborns that can learn Thu'um. And I didnt say specifically "Dragonborn" in the top message so... I think it could be possible imo.
All dragonborn can learn Thu'um. Everyone can learn Thu'um. Dragonborns just does it easier than anyone, while non-dragonborns need to spend years learning a/few words.
Thu'um doesn't fit as a skilline because it's mainly taught by the Greybeards and it will take years and great discipline to learn it.
Ah yeah, also being member of the Psijic Order is not that easy and not everyone can be member, also closing breachs makes you learn skills... Not very lorewise and it is posible.Only Templar PvP player0 -
Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No. As people have said, the Vestige can’t be Dragonborn (there being no Dragonborn right now is THE reason the Planemeld is even possible) and thus can’t absorb Shouts and the Vestige can’t learn Shouts any quicker than anyone else could. It would be overpowered and importantly, this game is not Skyrim. If you want to Thu’um, play Skyrim. I’m not happy about the Deadlands chapter either.PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore- CP 2000+
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BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭As much as I love Nords and the thu'um, the last thing I personally wanna see is a bunch of lizards elves and cats using our lady's sacred voice in an mmo. "Anyone can thu'um" yea sure technically maybe but Nords have an inherent strength of voice given by Kyne that made it possible for them to be taught in the first place, which is likely where that "kyne taught the nords to thu'um" stuff came from despite it being said to be Paarthurnax. Evidence of that is the new racial ability given in Skyrim, its literally you shouting. Imperials have something like it too and that makes sense as they're basically cyro-nords.
It's just not appropriate for eso. Every time we see someone thu'uming in lore, they're Nord, or associated with the amulet of kings which is likely responsible for non nord dragonborn (eso literally starts with this plot point even if Mannimarco stops this from happening and was a trick. Best lies are told with half truths.) Take note that all the dragonborn you see in Sovngarde are also Nord.
Anyway yes, technically its likely possible anyone can thu'um same as anyone can probably learn to Sword-Sing. I'd still rather not see a bunch of silly kitties using it, they already took dragons from nords as their own unique lore. Let the Nords have something, the dragon knight using the akaviri ki abilities is close enough for everyone else imo.
All that said, if they did introduce this, and I hope they don't, it would likely be cool enough that I'll just ignore other people using it same as I ignore other people doing a lot of immersive breaking things.Edited by BardokRedSnow on April 16, 2023 6:04PMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
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mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not too familiar with Thu'um stuff, but isn't that Grundwulf guy from Moongrave dungeon a Dovakin or something? Im sure he has fus ro dah skill )Edited by mocap on April 16, 2023 6:59PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Not too familiar with Thu'um stuff, but isn't that Grundwulf guy from Moongrave dungeon a Dovakin or something? Im sure he has fus ro dah skill )
Yes Grundwulf can Thu’um but it is because he’s studied with the Greybeards for many years. He is not a Dragonborn but wishes to be.PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore- CP 2000+
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ZDunlain✭✭✭No. As people have said, the Vestige can’t be Dragonborn (there being no Dragonborn right now is THE reason the Planemeld is even possible) and thus can’t absorb Shouts and the Vestige can’t learn Shouts any quicker than anyone else could. It would be overpowered and importantly, this game is not Skyrim. If you want to Thu’um, play Skyrim. I’m not happy about the Deadlands chapter either.
I know Vestige cannot be Dragonborn, as I said many times before, any mortal can learn Thu'um and I never said in aaaaaaaaaany comentary in this post that Vestige can/could be Dragonborn. So theorically Vestige can shout.Only Templar PvP player0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No. As people have said, the Vestige can’t be Dragonborn (there being no Dragonborn right now is THE reason the Planemeld is even possible) and thus can’t absorb Shouts and the Vestige can’t learn Shouts any quicker than anyone else could. It would be overpowered and importantly, this game is not Skyrim. If you want to Thu’um, play Skyrim. I’m not happy about the Deadlands chapter either.
I know Vestige cannot be Dragonborn, as I said many times before, any mortal can learn Thu'um and I never said in aaaaaaaaaany comentary in this post that Vestige can/could be Dragonborn. So theorically Vestige can shout.
Theoretically, the Vestige can learn to shout.
However, the Vestige cannot learn to shout by defeating dragons like the Dragonborn does. The usual way of learning to Shout involves meditating on the words of power, whether its how Paarthurnax taught the original Tongues, meditating on Kyne and the mean of the words in the way the Greybeards do, or learning from the current Tongues like Tiber Septim started with his Imperial War College in Markarth. Dragonborns can short-cut the meditation/understanding part by consuming dragon souls.
However, its worth noting that the Greybeards' method is by far the most powerful method of any Tongue-user. So even if the Vestige learns a different method that allowed them to drastically shorten the "ten years = two shouts" that Ulfric achieved, their Shouts would likewise be dramatically less powerful than Ulfric's Unrelenting Force or Disarm.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is not the first time this idea popped up. The only way I could see this happen is if it was a skill line exclusively containing ultimates as that would put them on a cooldown (leaving them special) and ensure that your character only "knows" two shouts max, which is plausible enough for our characters.
In the last discussion on this topic that I was a part of, I suggested the ultimates would do different things depending on how much ultimate was spent, to represet how many words of the shout you are using. The tech for this already exists in the Incapacitating Strike ultimate from Nightblades, so they could easily implement this.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.1 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭This is not the first time this idea popped up. The only way I could see this happen is if it was a skill line exclusively containing ultimates as that would put them on a cooldown (leaving them special) and ensure that your character only "knows" two shouts max, which is plausible enough for our characters.
In the last discussion on this topic that I was a part of, I suggested the ultimates would do different things depending on how much ultimate was spent, to represet how many words of the shout you are using. The tech for this already exists in the Incapacitating Strike ultimate from Nightblades, so they could easily implement this.
Really interesting your suggestion and it would be cool tbh.Only Templar PvP player0 -
Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
One way I see using the thu'um working in ESO from the lore side of things, is a new class based around it, perhaps called Tongue or something like that. Don't think the vestige being a tongue would be too big of an issue for the lore. Gameplay-wise, however, it could be a bit broken depending on how it's done.
On a side note, Dragonknights technically can already "shout" if you consider Enguling Flames (and the base skill) as the first word of power of "Fire Breath".0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Vestige isn't Dragonborn, and it takes Mortals most of their lives just to be able to speak a few words.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭The Vestige isn't Dragonborn, and it takes Mortals most of their lives just to be able to speak a few words.
Not most of their lives, Ulfric is still kind of young and he knows at least one shout well, yet he still had enough time to participate in a war and learn everything there is to know about being a Jarl. It's safe to say that he didn't need a life time to learn a shout or two. The Greybeards have to master all the shouts (collectively) but they manage within a mortal lifetime just fine. So there really is nothing stopping us from turning dragon shouts into ultimates, other than coming up with a reason for why the Greybeards would teach us anything at all. But hey, they taught Grundwulf of all people. That guy has more screws loose than Ulfric if you ask me.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Tensar✭✭✭✭i don't mind having the thu'um for us (a part of it) but your idea is not good (a word for killing dragons? WTF)
peaple saying it make no sense are funny, because it's not different of the arcanist with MoraKinda strange to me, it would sound like everyone was chosen by akatosh as a dragonborn (even people who don't have dragon blood can learn it)...
like the arcanistNope. No dragonborn stuff second era.
it's not a "dragonborn stuff"Thu'um doesn't fit as a skilline because it's mainly taught by the Greybeards and it will take years and great discipline to learn it.
it can fit, don't even need to involve the greybeards. With a good story you can do anything. + you make this skillline full of ultimates ONLY and gg you can't spam it.
So after they added a special daedric class they can add almost everything, and i prefere a thuum skillline than this herma mora class.Edited by Tensar on April 17, 2023 12:53AM1 -
Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭Nah, if ZOS do make a new skill line for all classes hopefully it be spellcrafting than Thu'um. Y'know something they hinted back in 2014. I prefer hunting ancient spell words than shouting words.Edited by Clyde_BlueSnake on April 17, 2023 1:31AMMain is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)2 -
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✭✭✭✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »Hey guys I was wondering how cool it would be if ZOS add a new skill line about Thu'um where you need to travel all around Tamriel defeating dragons in order to obtain the diferents words for the shouts, for example one word per kind of dragon in Elsweyr, two for Thurvokun (one for normal and another for veteran Fang Lair dungeon) then anothers for Sunspire, each dragon gives two (like in Fang Lair depending on the difficulty), also dragons from Apocrypha (if they add dragons next chapter), defeating dragon priests and more words that we can obtain adding more dragon enemies in some DLC/Chapter.
For example it could be really awesome if they add something like this with a Chapter involving Whiterun.
Also the skills in this skill lines are the shouts you can use and once you get the three words, you can go to grey beards or similar and they will share with you their wisdom in some way to you in order to use the skill (shout).
You can use only one shout and you have a timer like in Skyrim where you are not able to spam it, so for example if you learn Fus Ro Dah (after defeating 3 dragons to obtain the words and the grey beards share with you their wisdom to use it) once you use it, you have a 30 seconds timer preventing you can spam it.
You will be forced to use only one shout selecting it from the skill line.
It would be really nice because we will need to travel all around Tamriel in order to unlock words for shouts.
What is your opinion about this guys?
Only the dragon born can absorb dragon souls and learn a Thum instantly.
It took the grey beards a lifetime to learn the Thum without being dragonborns.
Our characters cannot be dragonborns because it conflicts with the main story of the 3 banners war.
There is no dragonborn to claim the Ruby Throne. That's why the factions are fighting.
The Vestige has learnt how to utilize magic's of the Psijic Order in no time at all and you assume it would take them a long time to beable to learn that? we are a prisoner not some random.1 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭i don't mind having the thu'um for us (a part of it) but your idea is not good (a word for killing dragons? WTF)
peaple saying it make no sense are funny, because it's not different of the arcanist with MoraKinda strange to me, it would sound like everyone was chosen by akatosh as a dragonborn (even people who don't have dragon blood can learn it)...
like the arcanistNope. No dragonborn stuff second era.
it's not a "dragonborn stuff"Thu'um doesn't fit as a skilline because it's mainly taught by the Greybeards and it will take years and great discipline to learn it.
it can fit, don't even need to involve the greybeards. With a good story you can do anything. + you make this skillline full of ultimates ONLY and gg you can't spam it.
So after they added a special daedric class they can add almost everything, and i prefere a thuum skillline than this herma mora class.
I think that people don't understand that being able to learn thu'um is not equal as being dragonborn and they start pointing things that we already have like you said about arcanist lol.
And yes, it is strange a complete class based on a daedra only when by default the vestige is literally Meridia's champion.Only Templar PvP player0 -
ZDunlain✭✭✭Ragnarok0130 wrote: »Definitely not, we're the vestige not the dragonborn.
So you don't understand anything about the Thu'um.
Anyone can learn Thu'um like grey beards, ulfric, ebony warrior, etc.
Not only dragonborns can shout.Edited by ZDunlain on April 17, 2023 2:37PMOnly Templar PvP player0
