Agreed, that would make endeavours a lot less onerous. I can't see ZOS ever implementing this change, though, because it would make gambling on crown crates even less attractive, and they'd miss the money.

I lied, one more adjustment: No hard cap. Diminishing returns, instead. Always a reward for playing, but none of the seals sources can be exploited that way.

I like the idea, but I have to agree it's unlikely to ever be implemented.

kargen27 wrote: »

As it is now the endeavors may encourage players even if for a very brief moment to participate in an activity they otherwise would not. That is good for the game.

I am sure that's EXACTLY what someone at ZOS who got this idea implemented also thought, same with the people who also agreed with the idea enough to put it in the game (fallout 76 uses a similar system)

however, "good for the game" is in your opinion..

to WHOM are these endeavors targeting and why? you say "good for the game" like its attracting new players to the game or doing something for retention? if you care enough to do endeavors daily in ESO you are not a new player.

if its vets then WHAT IS THE POINT? we all already know what we do and don't like to do, not one person has seen the "kill 10 fire atro" daily and said "hey im going to go outside my comfort zone and do some content i would otherwise not do that i also know there are fire atro in for my daily."

no

you get a train of people going to spellscar for their daily

people complete the endeavors like they do crafting writs, its just another chore.

you complete the lowest hanging fruit, and then go to the forums and complain if the weekly does not have a casually completable weekly like "harvest 75 nodes" or "kill 250 things"



im sorry to explain the gaming industry to anyone, but our in game cosmetics were put in the store, our in game chance of getting them is a currency, and that currency is drip fed to us through daily tasks to encourage repetition in the hopes of creating a habit, or you can spend money to bypass and just buy what you want, this also is a monetary investment that may retain a player, sunk cost and what not.



and im fine with that i guess, just make the tasks be whatever i want so when i log in i can harvest whatever nodes i want instead of what im told to.

I don't agree with this proposal. We're supposed to invest some effort to earn the seals, like typically taking part in activities we don't like. Same than everything else in the game, like for example, if we want to complete every area, we're forced to do things we don't like and go to places we don't like (except of course players who like everything).

Beside, as said by someone else before, it's also a way to bring players to activities they would probably not touch otherwise.

And last but not least, don't forget that nobody is forced to anything. It's not mandatory to do 3 tasks every day. We can do one or two tasks only - or none at all - on one day, and wait for the day after. No harm done.

Personally, I do only tasks "on the go": I play the way I like, without caring, and if, upon doing an action, I get notification that it's counting for daily, and that it's no big effort (like cutting a piece of wood), then I do it. Otherwise, I don't do. Even with this slow way to go, I have around 15k seals.

Ilumia wrote: »

One of the biggest problems with this system is that the reward trend since implementation, has gone so much down. Just like all the other "free" things we get, like daily login. The eso+ monthly statuette is also rewarded less often now.
With the endeavors they did write that the effort of the task would match the number of endeavors it rewarded. But the tasks are the same or ask more than in the beginning, but yield less
All these failed promises is making me feel less and less like playing sadly.

this effect is industry wide and why you have seen the failure of so many live service games recently.

in an effort to get more money and more players they start designing everything by spreadsheets and retention times.

whether or not the game is "fun" is not reflected in any of this data and this ends up being how and why devs loose touch and games die.

they try to turn their fun game into an equation that can be used to make money, and in so doing lose sight of why people played the game in the first place.

morrowind did not have seals of endeavors, dailies, weeklies, etc, yet people play them to this day.

figure it out.

Couldn't agree more, [snip] a change like that would hurt their gambling game. Don't forget, the only reason we even have endeavors is to go around certain laws that some countries have in place for this kind of thing.

[baiting]

The current system shows our progress which I like a lot better than not knowing how close I am to meeting the cap for the day or the week.