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Do you use the Undaunted Mettle passive?

Jaraal
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Undaunted Mettle I: Increases your Max Health, Stamina, and Magicka by 1% per type of Armor (Heavy, Medium, Light) that you have equipped.
Undaunted Mettle II: Increases your Max Health, Stamina, and Magicka by 2% per type of Armor (Heavy, Medium, Light) that you have equipped.


I know some like to go 7 light/medium/heavy, others 5/1/1, 3/2/2, etc. What is your preferred armor weight distribution, and why?

Do you use the Undaunted Mettle passive? 137 votes

I use the passive on all my characters.
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I use the passive on most of my characters.
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I use the passive on a few of my characters.
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I don't use the passive on any of my characters.
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  • BloodyStigmata
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    I use the passive on all my characters.
    The only people not using it are the people who have characters that haven't yet leveled the skill, or who have somehow escaped knowledge of its existence.
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  • fred4
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    You get 2% for wearing just one armor type. Of course you take everything you can get for free, once you unlock that passive, right?

    I don't like how heavy armor feels. My builds use combinations of medium and light, given the choice. That's for DDs or for PvP. I'll wear a heavy chest piece due to set choice (such as Mara's Balm), not to activate Undaunted Mettle. That said, as a (PvE) tank I might wear all 3 armor types to get my stats up.

    I think I know what you're getting at, but really the passive is unimportant most of the time. I keep it in the back of my mind, but need more than that to wear different armor types. I'd probably wear 7 medium on every character, if that suited my sustain requirements, but that doesn't happen very often. I do have a 7 medium all Sturdy tank setup, though. Maximum block cost reduction, maximum mobility, and still able to reach armor cap these days.
  • bmnoble
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    I use the passive on a few of my characters.
    Only have the undaunted maxed on my main, can't be stuffed doing it on my alts, at most they have the blood altar unlocked.
  • Kendaric
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    I don't use the passive on any of my characters.
    I don't level the Undaunted skill line, so none of my characters have the passive.
      PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!. PC EU/PC NA roleplayer and solo PvE quester
    • Kisakee
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      Not using it would be a great mistake let alone the other passive for resource regain in group content. I always get every single passive on any character no matter how little the bonus, minmax is my way.
      I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
    • Danikat
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      I don't use the passive on any of my characters.
      I don't level the Undaunted skill line, so I don't use it.

      I do wear a mix of armour types on my characters while levelling them so they have all the armour skill lines levelled to give me options, then once they get to level 50 I pick 1 or 2 (usually 2) to focus on.
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    • hrothbern
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      I am happy to use it on the characters I play with.
      Whereby noted that most of my characters do not much more than daily writs and in no need (yet) whatsoever.

      I did make however a mental note for new Companions to level their Undaunted skill line with characters not having yet lvl 10 Undaunted with the Bolgrul dailies.
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    • MaleAmazon
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      I mean, technically. Most of my characters don´t meet the requirements. Those that do have the skill - it´s a passive, no downside.

      As for armor distribution - one of the best changes ZOS ever did was the armor change so that all armor types are strong, on all characters. At the moment, it´s probably mathematically best, at least for me, to have at least one piece of all armor types, with light armor on the smallest piece - meaning waist. I play mostly solo, so even though I usually go stamina, I can always use more penetration.

      Usually I don´t think too much of it though. Most of the time I am limited from the actual pieces I have. And the difference is pretty small.
    • KlauthWarthog
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      I always pick the passive, as it is still "free" attributes, but I no longer try to maximize it.

      Before the changes to the armor passives and champion system, I used to use 5L/1M/1H on all my light armor character, 7M on all the medium armor chars. The 1M/1H used to be monster shoulder and head, with either piece being either weight.

      Now, the light chars are all 7L, the medium have at least 5M, then up to 2L depending on how much penetration I am missing.

      For tanks, I might take a medium piece on either monster set piece, but otherwise it is heavy all the way. Way back in the day, when crafted sets were still somewhat useful for tanks, I used to go 1L/1M/5h, with light and medium on the hand and belt slots.
    • Varana
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      Do I have the passive on my characters? Sure, why not. It's at least 2% free stuff, and more likely 4-6% free stuff.

      Do I use armour weights specifically to get the higher tiers of it? Not anymore since CP2.0 gave everyone lots of stats from the start. Before that, the passive was very important; nowadays, it's just nice to have.
    • ADarklore
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      I don't use the passive on any of my characters.
      I've never leveled the Undaunted line and have no reason to. I'm not a min/maxer and could care less about tiny percentages because they don't impact how I play the game and the content that I play.
      CP: 2130 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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    • NordSwordnBoard
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      Its free stats, even if you only wear one armor type. Changes to the armor system made mixing in pieces more likely.
      It just seems less important as stacking max stats isn't as good as stacking damage and recovery to support it. Memba Hulking Draugr?
      Fear is the Mindkiller
    • TaSheen
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      I don't use the passive on any of my characters.
      I don't level Undaunted - that's the sort of grind I really dislike. I find other things more useful than those percentages.

      After two of my mains, I no longer level FG either. I generally level MG on most everyone, at least eventually, and every one of my characters reads every book they run across.
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    • OBJnoob
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      I eventually level it on all my characters, and wear at least 1 of every armor weight for it. Normally like a 2-2-4 in fact.

      I'm not a super min-maxer but I do what I can. The Undaunted skill-line and Medicinal Use in alchemy are normally the last two things I complete before saying "okay I'm done building."
    • MafiaCat115
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      I'd use it on more if I had the passive unlocked on them.
      Still waiting for answers about class set aura behavior, and also hoping that one day hair dyeing will be an option. We know it's canon thanks to a book in the Manor of Masques! (House of Reveries: The Troupe)
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    • phaneub17_ESO
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      Its a meh bonus, but any increase is good nonetheless.
    • haelgaan
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      anyone that has the skillpoints should have this, and it gives benefit for even wearing only one type of armor.

      did OP mean, how many ppl wear all three different weights of armor, to maximize the passive benefit?

      for that question - used to be that pretty much everyone did, but when they redid the armor passives that stopped because the armor passives can outweigh the undaunted passive in some or many situations. Healers are all L, dps are L or M depending on their penetration and other needs, tanks can be all H, etc. Some might still take full advantage of the Undaunted passive, but it's less common now, from what i see
    • aaisoaho
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      As pthers said, it's free stats. Every character I'm going to do content with, I will level rhe passives. I won't use all three armor weights tho. Heavy armor is always a damage loss on damage dealers, so most of the time my characters are on 6 medium and 1 light, no matter the max resource they spec into. Only times I use more light is when our group has no roar of alkosh.
    • MaleAmazon
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      for that question - used to be that pretty much everyone did, but when they redid the armor passives that stopped because the armor passives can outweigh the undaunted passive in some or many situations.

      That´s funny because it is the exact opposite for me. I used to go medium+heavy or light+heavy in some 5+2 combination, since you needed 5 pieces for some passive skills, but I didn´t find the extra undaunted percentage passive from the third armor type enough to warrant putting on a piece of armor that was otherwise 'wrong' for my character, since I lost out on a little extra from the 2-pieces type armor passives (especially if I was a bit short on skillpoints). Now I find it useful to get a sash or so if possible, for an extra bonus for all characters, and I don´t worry as much about getting 5 pieces of any one type.
    • tincanman
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      I use the passive on most of my characters.
      Most because some don't yet have undaunted fully levelled.

      I think it used to be mandatory before the devs increased base health; prior to that you'd be running 15k-16k health as a primary attribute (mag/stam) dd and with it a more respectable 17k -ish health, for example. Interestingly, some 1-shots from then like bc1 final boss unblocked are pretty much auto-survivable today with the increased health.

      For tanks I've always preferred 5:1:1. For healers, same but tending to go 5:2 (L:M) more. For damage 7 (so not using the passive at all) or 6:1 if I want more survivability. This is for pve.

      For pvp always will have at least one of each armour type to use the undaunted mettle passive; it's free resources and too useful to ignore. Much less rigid in types and number of each type of armour used, though.
    • Freelancer_ESO
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      I have it on some of my characters but not all because I don't queue for dungeons on my non-healers and I don't necessarily solo enough dungeons on the non-healers to have it maxed.

      I really wish the passive wasn't in the Undaunted line.

      From an RP perspective, most of the characters I'd like to make would not want to join. However, from a gameplay perspective most of my characters want the passive since I at times play with other people I don't want to let them down.
    • disintegr8
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      Not sure why you wouldn't if you have a skill point to use - even 1% is something for free.
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    • Sheridan
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      By using you mean investing a skill points in it, or purposely wearing all 3 types of armor to maximize its effect?
    • Xoelarasizerer
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      I use the passive on a few of my characters.
      I dont go out of my way to level or max Undaunted on every toon (even ones just used for transmute gem runs) but if they reach the levels for the passive, I make sure it's activated for em with 1 of each of the other armour types.
    • Dr_Con
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      "i refuse to use anything the game gives me that can be to my benefit, even if it is accessible to everyone"

      -some unarmed & naked dude probably
    • jle30303
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      The trouble is, in fact, finding where you can spare the room for a wrong-weight piece of armour, assuming you want to keep complete sets as far as possible, because you may lose a Set Bonus.

      For instance, if you go with the classic configuration of 5-5-2:

      - If both of your sets are Dungeon or Trial sets, or indeed Overland sets (other than Sithis, Bahraha's, Syvarra's and Trainee, all of which are available in all weights), and you're using a monster head and shoulders, the Dungeon/Trial sets all have to be in the same weight, so your different-weight items have to be the monster head and shoulders. For instance you might wear two Light sets, plus a Heavy head and Medium shoulders, or two Medium sets plus a Heavy head and Light shoulders, or two Heavy sets plus a Medium head and Light shoulders.

      - If one of your sets is a Crafted set, those are available in all weights, so you can simply craft a couple of them in the wrong weight. For instance, Hunding's is a good Stamina set so you'll want it in mostly Medium, however you might make the Chest piece a Heavy one (for the greatest gain in Armor value) and the Belt piece a Light one (for the smallest loss in Armor value). Or Julianos is a good Magicka set so you mostly want it Light, but you might make a heavy Chest piece (greatest gain in armor value) and a medium Legs (also a good gain in Armor value for medium over light.) If you're a Tank using a crafted set (e.g. something like Torugs or Brass Fortress), you might go for a mostly Heavy set, but with medium Boots and light Belt.

      If you're going 5-5-1-1 including a Mythic: The mythic is most likely jewelry (most of them are), so it may well be that the best you can do is a wrong-weight Monster Head, and two dungeon/trial/overland sets for 5/5 - unless you're using a crafted set, in which case craft one of the pieces in the other wrong-weight. Using a wrong-weight mythic armour piece (Death Dealers Fete, Spaulder of Ruin, and so on) is probably not a good idea since it probably won't suit your playstyle.
    • Varana
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      When the Undaunted Mettle passive was a must-have for anyone half-serious about group content or PvP, that was indeed true. But the workaround with monster sets in different weights was usually just fine. I still have most of my monster sets in weird weights because of that.

      But first, the passive isn't that relevant any more. They raised the stats that you get by default considerably, more than the passive ever gave you, and stats are usually at a comfortable level nowadays without Undaunted Mettle. It's still nice to have, but nothing more.

      And second, "wrong weight" is a very ... fluid term these days. You don't have to wear 5 pieces to have access to the armour passives. You mix and match depending on what you need. Light armour gives you penetration, medium gives you a damage/healing boost - so you can balance your stats yourself. And magicka characters use medium or even heavy sets these days, or stamina characters light sets - there is no clear distinction any more.

      So even using a mythic in a "wrong" weight is totally fine. You wanted to have some pieces in that weight anyway, probably. The Harpooner's Kilt is medium - still, it's usable by every build because having a few pieces of medium is a good idea in general. And so on.

      So third - you're probably using two weigths anyway. And even if not, and you're completely decked out in one weight, that's still a bonus of 2%. The passive helps you (in a very generous sense, because the bonus is rather negligible anyway) just by having it.
    • SpacemanSpiff1
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      more stats is more betterer
    • Turtle_Bot
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      The passive helps to get health to 30k in PvP without investing any attribute points into health, so it's very useful there, as for PvE, its probably much less useful, but the extra free stats will help with min-maxing damage, tanking and healing.
    • N00BxV1
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      I use the passive on all my characters.
      I use the Undaunted passives on all of my characters (18). And sometimes the skills too.

      The Undaunted skill line gets leveled naturally by doing what I normally do. And the passives give max stats and resources from synergies. So there's no reason for me not to use it.

      But I usually don't care what the passive is for. If a passive gives a benefit then I'm using it.
      Edited by N00BxV1 on March 27, 2023 1:41PM
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