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Add 30s cooldown at barswap
Red_chimera_oni
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This will low dps
This will make 2bars fun
This will force people avoid oakensoul
This will be funnn....
No?
Edited by ZOS_Lunar on March 16, 2023 12:00PM This will make 2bars fun
This will force people avoid oakensoul
This will be funnn....
No?
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Ishtarknows✭✭✭✭✭
✭Since there's hardly any skills that last 30s what's the point? I can't see how that would make combat "fun". It would be a frustrating mess and being stuck on one bar for 30s sounds like a part time Oakensoul 1bar build without the Oak buffs.
Play how you want no? Leave 2 bars as they are3 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭FluffyBird wrote: »No
Maybe it will not.
But if ZoS do something just to messup with your game style i will like it.
I play with onebar only, so.... I will not cry if they add cooldown in 2bars.
It will be more fair for all players.
So.... "Play how you want" only apply for 2bars?Ishtarknows wrote: »Since there's hardly any skills that last 30s what's the point? I can't see how that would make combat "fun". It would be a frustrating mess and being stuck on one bar for 30s sounds like a part time Oakensoul 1bar build without the Oak buffs.
Play how you want no? Leave 2 bars as they are
Nah
Bring cooldown of 30s everytime players change bars. Please!!!Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 8:55AM2 -
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✭FluffyBird wrote: »No
Maybe it will not.
But if ZoS do something just to messup with your game style i will like it.
I play with onebar only, so.... I will not cry if they add cooldown in 2bars.
It will be more fair for all players.
So.... "Play how you want" only apply for 2bars?Ishtarknows wrote: »Since there's hardly any skills that last 30s what's the point? I can't see how that would make combat "fun". It would be a frustrating mess and being stuck on one bar for 30s sounds like a part time Oakensoul 1bar build without the Oak buffs.
Play how you want no? Leave 2 bars as they are
Nah
Bring cooldown of 30s everytime players change bars. Please!!!
No play how you want applies to 1,2 or no bar play. You chose 1, GG enjoy your play. Don't be spiteful and try to dictate how 2 bar people play because it's not your chosen style.Edited by Ishtarknows on March 16, 2023 8:59AM3 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »No play how you want applies to 1,2 or no bar play. You chose 1, GG enjoy your play. Don't be spiteful and try to dictate how 2 bar people play because it's not your chosen style.
Not even once until today i care about with others playstyle/dps. Not even once!
But Times are change.
Play like you want dont make more sence. We have to play like "some players do"...
All ok. I will play with 2bars easy, when zos add cooldown in barswap. 30seconds will be great. 1minute will be perfect...
If we cant play like we want (one bar) then we have to fight to have some type of play style we all can have and with 2bars. Cooldown in barswap will solve that for me.Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 9:15AM0 -
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✭✭You would in practice have two one bar builds, without the buff of Oakensoul. Pointless.2 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭You would in practice have two one bar builds, without the buff of Oakensoul. Pointless.
Or we can have 30s in barswap and no need of oakensoul at all. What's the problem?
Or even better.
If you're in combat you can't change bars.
Backbar for trash
Frontbar for boss.
If we can't change itens in combat why we can change weapons?
Block this.... This can be one soluction too.Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 9:11AM1 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »
We can? Oh ok. My bad sorryEdited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 9:19AM0 -
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If they would add cooldown on bar swap one bar builds would become the only way to play the game and coincidentally they are the strongest with oakensoul.1 -
thorwyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Your disdain for 2 bar builds and your baiting attempts are reaching comical dimensions.
How many times have you been banned from this forum now? Just to come back a couple of weeks later to continue your biased and pointless rants?And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon10 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭
If they would add cooldown on bar swap one bar builds would become the only way to play the game and coincidentally they are the strongest with oakensoul.
If they add cooldown in barswap, rotations will be more easy and that will help more players. How bad can this be?Your disdain for 2 bar builds and your baiting attempts are reaching comical dimensions.
How many times have you been banned from this forum now? Just to come back a couple of weeks later to continue your biased and pointless rants?
I don't hate players who use 2bars.
I hate use 2bars build.
I don't hate players with more dps and play better then me.
I love stay in that grps and i really love everytime and every run when im the lowest dps. Mean, we did a very nice and clean run.
Edit: Follow CoC and never, never make jokes about CrownStore.Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 9:43AM0 -
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✭Eh? Plenty of places where this would just cause players to die.
Sadly, this whole thread is just pure trolling and baiting. Given the OP's signature and other posts, I don't expect a meaningful discussion on why their idea is inane, doesn't work, and would hurt Oakensoul players in group content as well...4 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Eh? Plenty of places where this would just cause players to die.
Sadly, this whole thread is just pure trolling and baiting. Given the OP's signature and other posts, I don't expect a meaningful discussion on why their idea is inane, doesn't work, and would hurt Oakensoul players in group content as well...
Why its trolling? Its not.
Why its baiting? Its not.
Now i have to play like others wish and i have to follow others play style?
Why im not allow to create one topic to give my opinion?
I 100% hate 2bars. So i play with oakensoul.
Sadly, players don't like us, only because we use oakensoul.
So why i can't give my opinion and ask for cooldown in barswap? If ZoS do this, i change for 2bars without any question at all.
So.... We need to play like many of you wish and now we have to follow and think like many of you? Otherwise will be trolling/baiting? Why?- add 30seconds cooldown in barswap
- Block barswap in combat
I change for 2bars with any of this changes.
Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 10:30AM1 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Sadly, this whole thread is just pure trolling and baiting. ..."
This is trolling:
Some players can do it... Others don't.colossalvoids wrote: »I vote no bars. Let me first my way out to Alaxon.Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 10:46AM0 -
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So clearly the smart thing to do is to create even more animosity with threads like this. If you're so frustrated with the Cloudrest change, there are more constructive ways of expressing it than throwing a tantrum and making oakensoul users look like spoiled brats. For the record, I have chars with both kinds of builds so I understand some of that frustration, but these kind of troll threads help no one.Sadly, players don't like us, only because we use oakensoul.
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Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭
So clearly the smart thing to do is to create even more animosity with threads like this. If you're so frustrated with the Cloudrest change, there are more constructive ways of expressing it than throwing a tantrum and making oakensoul users look like spoiled brats. For the record, I have chars with both kinds of builds so I understand some of that frustration, but these kind of troll threads help no one.Sadly, players don't like us, only because we use oakensoul.
I try to give my ideia to make 2bars more easy. Then maybe we can leave oakensoul and return for 2bars.
What's wrong with that?
Edit: From cloudrest only need GH. Nothing more and i can leave and stay very happy without that one.Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 10:56AM0 -
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So clearly the smart thing to do is to create even more animosity with threads like this. If you're so frustrated with the Cloudrest change, there are more constructive ways of expressing it than throwing a tantrum and making oakensoul users look like spoiled brats. For the record, I have chars with both kinds of builds so I understand some of that frustration, but these kind of troll threads help no one.Sadly, players don't like us, only because we use oakensoul.
Exactly, I've been loosely following these discussions as I haven't been in game much to see what impact OS has had, and with many comments coming out degrading 2bar users as "only being good because they use macros" or them being "elitist," sure there's flack headed both ways but throwing up more isn't going to resolve the friction.3 -
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✭But if ZoS do something just to messup with your game style i will like it.I 100% hate 2bars.
Yep, you're definitely giving a balanced opinion and making a meaningful proposal in good faith here... Somehow, you imagine yourself as the victim of an imaginary cabal of Oakensoul haters, even though the vast majority of players doesn't care whether you use 1 or 2 bars.
So you propose to ruin the 2 bar playstyle in revenge - if that's not trolling/baiting, I don't know what is... But just for the sake of the argument, here's how you would hurt yourself with this idea:- 2-bar users will now kill you in vCR, because they can't swap bars on Relequen
- Healers and tanks have fewer skills in their toolkit, so you'll get fewer heals/buffs/enemy debuffs
- 2-bar DDs in your group will do less damage, because... ah, but that's what you want, right? Mess up the game style of others...
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Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭
So clearly the smart thing to do is to create even more animosity with threads like this. If you're so frustrated with the Cloudrest change, there are more constructive ways of expressing it than throwing a tantrum and making oakensoul users look like spoiled brats. For the record, I have chars with both kinds of builds so I understand some of that frustration, but these kind of troll threads help no one.Sadly, players don't like us, only because we use oakensoul.
Exactly, I've been loosely following these discussions as I haven't been in game much to see what impact OS has had, and with many comments coming out degrading 2bar users as "only being good because they use macros" or them being "elitist," sure there's flack headed both ways but throwing up more isn't going to resolve the friction.
So... Help me understand.
We can't even talk about some ways to make rotation more easy?
Cuz if we do... We're messing up with your playstyle.
But you all can degrading players who use Oakensoul?
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Liguar✭✭✭✭I'd say it's joking more than trolling. I mean... it's just another comment on parity isn't it?
People are saying that Yulan is ridiculous or spiteful (lol) for trying to change they way they play with 2 bars, come on it's funny.0 -
Trejgon✭✭✭✭We can't even talk about some ways to make rotation more easy?
You are not talking about making rotations more easy, you are talking about flat out destroying existing rotations, and have admitted youself to only want to ruin lifes of 2 bar users, because you hate those builds.
You know what makes rotations easier? make abilities last longer, so you have to renew them less often. What you are proposing instead is making them flat out impossible to upkeep.
You are not arguing for making anything easier in any sort of good faith, there is no way for you to think that anyone would stop using oaken after you nerfstomp to the floor any and all alternatives, and the only thing you achieve by your revearsal of some strawmanned arguments that I am sure you feel so smart about, is to antagonize more people against the cause you wanted to protect.
So in other words: congratulations, you have played yourself.
PS. in case it flew over your head, there is a number of people that didn't give a crap about oakensoul or it's users, that did and will get antagonized against oakensoul users, over this extremely silly suggestion.6 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭
Ofc. So many of you are so happy because ZoS almost kill oakensoul in CR. Why i cant be happy too?But if ZoS do something just to messup with your game style i will like it.
Unless... Something change.I 100% hate 2bars.
[*]Block barswap in combat
[*]Add 30sec cooldown
Not at all. I'm just saying:"...
So you propose to ruin the 2 bar playstyle in revenge - if that's not trolling/baiting, I don't know what is... But just for the sake of the argument, here's how you would hurt yourself ]
With some changes i will return for 2bars
I 100% can agree with this. That will make rotation more easy. All fine for me."...
You know what makes rotations easier? make abilities last longer, so you have to renew them less often. What you are proposing instead is making them flat out impossible to upkeep.
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Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 16, 2023 11:16AM0
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