Well we can't just let anyone wander in...

Had similar problems on PS server, usually a quick roll dodge fixes for me.

Just let us do stuff in imaginary combat.

OR

Add one single variable that updates every time you deal or receive damage from/to enemy. If Time Now minus That Variable is more than 10/15/20/whatever - drop combat.

Not only door, but also something energy barrier has malfunction.

I'd like to see doors locked until every member of the party is close enough to open them..at least that way some of us might get the chance to reach the end of the dungeon before that racer boys end and quit group. And before anyone says they race because they have done each dungeon many times over, that's fine but it doesn't help with the teamwork ethos, nor does it give those of us that are not optimal players much chance to enjoy the full game.
Sorry for the rant but this latest undaunted even has just about made me loss all hope in getting through any doors.

Ran Stone Garden yesterday with some fine fellows and we couldn't finish it because the door to Arkasis's lab wouldn't open. We weren't in combat. One member had the quest and it directed him to enter the lab, so there were no loose ends from our part.

Why have a door's opening be conditional? Design the dungeon so you can't skip the enemies and bosses, and leave the bloody door unlocked.

danno8 wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Ran Stone Garden yesterday with some fine fellows and we couldn't finish it because the door to Arkasis's lab wouldn't open. We weren't in combat. One member had the quest and it directed him to enter the lab, so there were no loose ends from our part.

Why have a door's opening be conditional? Design the dungeon so you can't skip the enemies and bosses, and leave the bloody door unlocked.

Yah a lot of people wouldn't like it but requiring all enemies to be dead in order to collect loot at the end of the dungeon would solve a few issues (speed runners leaving the rest of the group behind, broken door mechanics since you wouldn't need doors so much anymore).

Would it simply introduce new problems though? Probably.

I can think of a new problem, which is actually old: that classy enemy who gets stuck in the wall (Cradle of Shadows has had one for years now).

Had some problems with Depths of Malatar doors not opening. Blocked us off from completing the dungeon.

The amount of bugs blocking progress in dungeons is at an all time high.
Recently I've been soloing them for skill points on a couple of toons.
Every time I encountered a problem I was not in combat and everything was dead. I tried a bunch of solutions like dead spawning, closing app and porting out.

I had problems in:

Moongrave fane, door blocking progress.

Lair or Maars blight barrier not dropping despite everything dead and blight purged.

Beast Master in blessed crucible not progressing fight

Spindleclutch 2 I couldn't progress after the atro bosses as I would be teleported back via joining encounter in progress. Again, I was solo, not in combat and everything was dead....

Drea Cellar, door stayed locked after killing adds. This happened twice.

Dungeons are just horribly bugged right now, it's not the old in combat so the door won't work problem.

Or just fix stuck in combat

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

Doors are generally design features that represent different zones each with their own asset count; I don't know if they could remove doors in dungeons for that reason. Any other type of transport mechanism would probably work similar to a door or wayshrine. Without knowing more about the issue you experienced I can only assume that any new transport feature would suffer from the same bug or issue due to requiring interaction with the item. Was the lack of interaction due to being in combat or just hitting the button with no response? What platform are you playing on as I've started experiencing this hitting the interaction button out of combat and getting no response bug sporadically after this week's patch on PCNA.

This is my thinking too. I learned a few years ago that developers don't put doors in games without good reason because they are famously complicated (fun fact: none of the early Assassins Creed games had doors you could open, for exactly this reason).

No really, Google 'video game doors' and see what comes up. Or just check out one of my favourite articles on game design: The Door Problem by Liz England.

I think a lot of the doors in dungeons are functionally portals - the area on the other side of the door isn't really behind it but somewhere else entirely. Like how the interior of many buildings in cities are actually deep underground which is why quest markers pointing you inside will be tagged with (below) even if you actually have to go upstairs once you're inside.

So they couldn't simply remove the door without redesigning (probably rebuilding) the entire dungeon to join the areas up directly, and that might cause other problems with how much has to be loaded at once, effects that are only supposed to be in one area, enemy triggers etc.

Another fix is probably both simpler and more likely to be effective, like changing the requirements for players to be allowed through to something like 1 specific boss being dead and the whole group being close by (so names in the party UI aren't greyed out), and letting us through even if we're still in combat.