I don't do every "common" skill line on every character; depends on the character what I do with her: some get mages, none get pvp (outside of the AP daily rewards for Vigor), some get fighters, no one ever does undaunted (ick), each gets pertinent weapon skills, everyone gets psijiic, no one levels TG or DB (again, ick).

The ones I do on various characters I find very fun, and don't want that done AWA style.

I think the overall lines shouldn't be shared.

With that said, I think some of the passive abilities should be either universal or reduced so that players don't feel as forced to join/level up guilds they don't want to join.

For example, I think Undaunted Mettle, Intimidating Presence, and Persuasive Will should be universal passives.

I love the psijic. Most don't but it takes you across a lot of zones. I have done it a few times. I don't use add-ons most of the time and I find new stuff every time.

For things that give benefit to your character, time effort or money needs to be expended

I have Excavation and scrying fully leveled on 25 of my characters, and am working on getting it done on all the rest.

Nestor wrote: »

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

For things that give benefit to your character, time effort or money needs to be expended

How many of you have Excavation fully leveled on multiple characters?

Only need it on one. Leads are account wide and have 30 days to dig up

I want it on all of mine, because it's fun, and a bit of gold and furnishings.

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

It makes no sense that a character somehow knows skills they have had no exposure for learning about them. The next step is we roll a second character of a specific class and they automatically know all the skills as though at level 4 there are an expert at the game.

How does collecting completely unrelated lore books determine your character’s readiness to cast abilities?

Finding books drives Mage's Guild level, and Mage's Guild level drives the ability to learn and cast Mage's Guild spells. Presumably, the guild teaches this as the character improves in Guild standing, even though that step is glossed over in the game.

Do the work, get the reward.

Presumably? I’m playing video games so I don’t have to use my imagination, video games are also supposed to be fun, not work. I think you’ve got your priorities a little confused. I want to feel immersed. I want things to feel explained, for my decisions to have impact, ESO doesn’t do that, so why cater to it as if it did?

There are limits. You get and read your mail from anywhere. No one has to deliver it to you and you don't have to go to some mail box. That the game does not sit down and teach your character guild skills is the same thing. Every game does this, to some degree.

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Now I’ll ask, how many of you agree to skill lines like Excavation being account-wide over skill lines like Mage’s Guild?

Neither should be account wide. Actually, ZOS needs to go backwards with this. Purple leads are limited to one per account, and it needs to be one per character.

There are so many inconsistencies with some of these, and how AwA rolled out that I feel like it should be all or none. Excavation is a good example. (I also have it maxed on multiple characters) The purple leads from each zone are limited to the account but the skill lines themselves are per character. What I'm left with is a distinct lack of desire to do this again on any character.

My characters all have access to the same styles, but the motif pages are per character, while the achievement is also account wide. Prior to AwA I did collect them on more than one character, now, I don't really see the point in it.

I really dont care all that much either way. I preferred working on individual character progression, but that's gone or diluted severely. It has some points that makes it nice as well, I dont want to focus on just the bad, but the end result is, I don't want to do it again. In the case of Excavation, not only is it a bit grindy to level, every character after the first will be even worse. I'm also happy playing just a couple of characters, so it doesn't bother me.

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

For things that give benefit to your character, time effort or money needs to be expended

How many of you have Excavation fully leveled on multiple characters?

Only need it on one. Leads are account wide and have 30 days to dig up

One reason some people run it on multiple is for the Keen Eye: Treasure Chests.

Keen Eye: Treasure Chests makes it incredibly easy to spot the chests when doing dungeon runs with groups that are going fast. If you get lucky, finding treasure chests can significantly reduce the amount of time you spend in a dungeon grinding for a specific weapon.

And that is a benefit to the character. Work for it.

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Grinding Excavation has no character progression, there are no quests past the original, and yet gives a blatant advantage in Keen Eye: Treasure Chests as previously mentioned, it’s not a combat ability, yet for every advanced chest you find in dungeons, you are likely to find a weapon or jewelry, having to do one less run to fill your stickerbook.

Now I’ll ask, how many of you agree to skill lines like Excavation being account-wide over skill lines like Mage’s Guild?

None should be account wide. An MMO needs new content, players taking part in a variety of content and players repeating content for the long term health of the game. Account wide achievements already took away a major incentive to repeat content and do a variety of content. No need to hurt the game farther by making skill lines account wide.