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If you could earn everything in the crown store in game, would you pay more for the chapters?
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If you could earn everything in the crown store in game, would you pay more for the chapters? 117 votes
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No
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I don't know
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't knowIt depends on how much more.
I don't buy that much from the crown store (I don't get much with seals of endeavour either), I could afford to get more but I wouldn't use it. I doubt I'd use it if it was unlocked in game either.
Obviously in theory it would be good for everything to be earnable in game. But if it meant the price of the DLC goes up by the price of the crown store items which are now included (so like, you get a mount and a costume, but it's 1,500 crowns more than previous DLC) then effectively I'm being charged for things I'll never use and can't get the stuff I do want without wasting that extra money so it would ultimately be a bad move for me.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"3 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoEarn how exactly…
Am I going to be thrown into pvp situations I am not comfortable with?
Vet hard mode dungeons?
Endlessly grinding spriggans in Malabol Tor?
There are rewards right now I would love to earn but whose activity I don’t really care to do. (Looking at you fishing reward boat for housing and statue lead from bgs.) if more stuff was to be put behind those activities, I will just stick with the store, thank you very much.9 -
bmnoble✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoDon't see why everybody should have to pay more for the chance to earn a load of extra stuff, that not everyone wants to buy in the first place.
If they are going to do something like that it should be separate from the chapters, I buy those for the new story content not all the cosmetic shiny stuff in the crown store.
If I want something from the crown store I will buy the specific things I want, got no desire for a price hike, that could end up being more than I actually spend normally in the crown store each year.
Feels more like the kinda thing they would add to ESO+ to get more people to subscribe, even then still got no desire for a price hike.
I don't see how they can justify a price hike when they didn't need one when they added the same kinda system: endeavours to the game, which would just need to be further expanded to include the rest of the contents of the crown store instead of just the crown crates.0 -
Cazador✭✭✭✭✭NoChapters are already around $40 anyway. I don't like the idea of a price hike solely to have more cosmetics available, especially since I might have no interest in some of them.3 -
Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNo, I prefer not to pay for stuff I don’t want and to choose what I want when I want it (I realize not even the Crown store provides this — I had to wait a very long time for my Tel Galen). But for instance, starting out, I had no motifs or styles or gold, but I could buy a costume and be happy with my character’s appearance as I worked toward earning/unlocking further options.
I enjoy many of the things earnable in game, including the Indriks and several costumes and personalities. There are some things technically earnable in-game but too rare/grindy that, if I want the item, I’d rather buy it. With some furnishings, we have multiple options which is nice.
I do think a few more basic things like guar mounts should obtainable purely in game, but overall I’m happy with the balance, although not always the price, but I choose what is worth it to me.2 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI wouldn't be happy with the (probable) mega grinds for stuff I can get now with SoE. I don't do grinds any more. I'd rather pick up cosmetics for seals than spend ages grinding content I can do, and missing out on getting things from content I can't or won't do (like group content and pvp).______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....2 -
metheglyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoSo many of the items in the crown store don't interest me, so paying more money for a chapter just because it includes those items as earnable rewards has no appeal.1 -
Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoAbsolutely not. The chapters already cost quite a bit.[PC/NA] Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS), Retired Trialist, and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore.- Current GM of Hard Dungeoneers
- Tanks: Sorcerer - Necromancer - Templar
- DPS: Frost Warden - Stamarc
- Ex-healer
- Dungeons: 32/32 HMs - 26/26 Tris
View my builds!
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AvalonRanger✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI want to pay money for the workers of ZOS as possible as I can. (just tiny amount though)
But, there're not much good purpose at the crown shop for me now.
And, I don't like spending time for PVP to get the PVP skill line.
I just want only "purge" for the my quest, no other reason.
I need more "time" rather than money cost.My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
I'm Tank and Healer main player.0 -
Destai✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoAbsolutely not. As long as they have products that use timed deal and other clever (being charitable here) tactics, and crown crates, I can’t see a reason to pay more for the chapters - especially if the content quality/density is the same.0 -
rootkitronin✭✭✭✭✭NoCrazy concept - if I could actually buy the items I want from the Crown Store, I might be very well inclined to do so.
Having taken a break from ESO for a bit, it just boggles my mind to come back to a game that relies so heavily on gambling crates.
There are plenty of items in crates that I would happily pay money for if given the option - I have no problem with that.
The idea of paying money for a chance at maybe, possibly, most likely not, getting the item that you want to purchase is just insane and incredibly outdated.
The end result, I don't end up buying crates, and I'm certainly not spending as much as I would if I could just outright purchase the things I want.
And I'm sure it still makes ZOS money - how could it not? But that doesn't mean it's the most efficient or profitable way to run things.3 -
Androrix✭✭✭✭NoI like buying what I want to buy in the crown store--admittedly a lot ha ha.
I don't want it all, so why would I want to pay for it all in a different way?2 -
Vrienda✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNo because they'd probably be locked behind PvP or something I have no interest in.
Like that cool dragonguard style...Desperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.1 -
Kappachi✭✭✭✭✭I don't knowI'm under the IDK category because I already earn everything in-game, trading gold to friends/traders for crown store items and only paying for the expansion. Why is this a topic when it's already possible? though it would be nice to have crown store gifts demand a COD fee.1
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johnjetau✭✭✭✭NoI live in Australia and we pay enough already for chapters.
The new Necrom Chapter on Steam will cost me -
Upgrade - $59.95
Deluxe Upgrade - $82.95
The cost of pretty much a new game. So NO. Absolutely not.
With the chapter cost and subscription, I think ZOS is already getting more than enough for me and I dare say many other players.1 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't knowI buy my chapters - and almost all games - from sale. ZOS gets enough from ESO+.1 -
AinSoph✭✭✭✭✭I don't knowCurrently, you actually can earn nearly everything in the Crown Store via the economy and Crown trading but in terms of actually playing the game, there really isn't that much earnable rewards. In regards to the question asked, it's a bit early to tell for me and can only really answer after the Q3 QoL update they promised.0
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoThe chapters are already expensive for what they are.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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DreamyLu✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoThere is little that I like in the crown store, so for me that would be no good deal.I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA1 -
Lumenn✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoI don't really enjoy Zos's idea of "earnable ' in game. Leads gated behind double rng, the low rate of furniture mats that drop with very high costs, (I'm looking at you fargrave.) even w/o double rng "bad streaks" are becoming common. Yes, there's the argument that this could be one way of pushing us to the cash shop, but if this were implemented I don't see them adjusting drop rates out of kindness, do you?2 -
robwolf666✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoI buy for the content of the chapter, not the crown store. Make the chapters bigger with more content if you want more money for them.2 -
Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYes, with the condition that most items wouldn't be behind minuscule RNG (like the Chef Arquitius Lost Thesis, Ayleid furnishing plans, etc.). With the current crate system, someone who is after a mount might pay hefty amounts and not even get it, so buying a more expensive chapter and being able to get all those things in-game would be a huge improvement. Plus, the chapter always becomes a DLC on the following year, so players could wait and still earn the items on a later date. The game really needs more rewards (and more well-designed rewards, because the last few trifecta rewards for eg., were anything but unique) obtainable through playing.0 -
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✭✭✭I don't knowNo, I wouldn't pay more for DLC. The DLC already costs what a new game costs, and this game has been out since 2014. I'd love to see 90% of the cash shop items, that being 100% of the crown crate items, being released in-game as earnable stuff with more each chapter. I'd love to see more events with more fun things we can earn, more ways to increase the retention of the game. Grind-based cosmetics, achievement based ones, event ones, things tied to more quests. Sure, there could be some cool stuff in PVP, but since PVP doesn't have much in the way of new content often, I'd make most pvp related cosmetics event based. But since the majority of the playerbase is PVE centric, going with a lot of the WoW model of earning stuff in-game would do a lot of good for the game. Crown Crates, like all loot boxes, are gambling and are slowly but surely being banned all around the world, so if the game is still around when the ban comes to the west in earnest, they're going to NEED a new model anyway. Basing the game on retention would go a long way.
I'd be willing to buy a battle pass for 20 bucks over 3 months if 90% of cosmetics were earnable in-game, though. That means no more loot boxes.0 -
AnduinTryggva✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoBasically one can do that already with the endeavor thing. Unfortunately the grind is terribly long...0 -
Hlaaluna✭✭✭NoI only like a small percentage of what is in the Crown Store. Would not want to fill up on ugly skins, ridiculous mounts, etc.2 -
Anumaril✭✭✭✭✭YesEmphatically yes. Having Crown Store items earnable via in-game activities is what games SHOULD be doing (morally, if not monetarily). I would 1000% pay more for Chapters if this were the case. Knowing that there would be ample amounts of cosmetics earnable in-game and in Chapters would be more than enough incentive to may for new Chapters, even if they're much higher price.0
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AnduinTryggva✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoEmphatically yes. Having Crown Store items earnable via in-game activities is what games SHOULD be doing (morally, if not monetarily). I would 1000% pay more for Chapters if this were the case. Knowing that there would be ample amounts of cosmetics earnable in-game and in Chapters would be more than enough incentive to may for new Chapters, even if they're much higher price.
Speak for yourself. I don't want to pay ten times the amount of a new DLC just to be able to grind for stuff in the crown store which would end up me paying nearly 500 bucks for a DLC. With this 450 bucks I could easily buy directly in the crown store stuff that I really wand and still safe money and pass all the grind stuff.5
