Hard and Soft caps beyond level 50

Mortelus · May 2014

I heard that at V1+ everyone just respecs and put their points into HP and uses food, Glyphs and gear to increase their Magika and Stamina, is this true?

If so is this because you will hit the soft caps pretty easily. Does anyone have any numbers on the soft-caps and hard-caps, wheat are they?

It seems to me if this is true, they need to increase the softcaps so we can be a little more varied in our builds. Otherwise it seems kind of pointless to me to even let us bother with attribute points if once a level 50 I will just be putting everything into health.

Can anyone at this level please advise.

Natjur · May 2014

The only reason I know players put all into HP is so they can change builds easy.
Have all in HP and put on your mana gear to be a healer\spell dps
Have all in HP and put on your stamina gear to be a tank.

It just so they can swap roles easy as changing armor.

As for soft and hard caps, there is a nice add-on which helps you with that

But no 'build' is wrong, just harder to swap roles with.
I know a few that have put ever point in mana and they do the highest DPS I know (sorc) but they will have a hard time having a tank build, but they never plan too, so not an issue

You will hit the soft caps with regen, but very hard to hit the soft caps for total HP, Mana and Stamina (you can hit 2 of the 3, but all 3....)

Mortelus · May 2014

So it isn't because they are hitting the caps, purely for changing of gear. This is good if this is true because I would rather have higher DPS and larger pools of mag and stam than higher HP.

Natjur · May 2014

Things do change a bit in the vet levels tho, you die fast, mobs will crit hit you and a single mob may hit you for 1.7k in a single range hit. If you have no points in HP, this will one shot you.

But if you are good with you CC and maybe have a pet, being a pure dps no HP can work as long as you have high armor and high spell resist.

I never noticed mobs drinking healing potions in the L1-50 zones (maybe cause I killed them too fast) but in the vet level.....

Mortelus · May 2014

So being a NB donning pure medium armour and wielding a bow, whilst using strife as my self heal... will I be able to survive, or will I get eaten and spat out?

EDIT: I have many stuns available in my skills

Natjur · May 2014

Mortelus wrote: »

So being a pure medium bow wielding NB and having strife as my self heal... will I be able to survive, or will I get eaten and spat out?

EDIT: I have many stuns available in my skills

No build is wrong, just some harder the others. I really can't say how your build will be. My Templar Bow had a hard time in the vet levels at the start, but after using my CC skills, it was easy again, but if I got surprised by 3 mobs, I always die. But if I plan each attack, no issues except for a few self healing or CC immune bosses.

Mortelus · May 2014

OK thanks, I will persist onwards.

Also I see in your sig, your character has maxed all but enchanting, is it toally viable to do this? Did you use skill points in all the available crafts, or just put a few in what you needed.

I am only asking because at the moment I am concentrating on BS, Clothing, Woodworking and Enchanting, but haven't put any points in BS yet, and a few in the other. I have only taken hirelings, reduction in cost of improving. I don't intend to put any points into the skill to make it easier to spot nodes, and will only increase research times on clothing as that has a lot to research.

DId you struggle with SP's?

Natjur · May 2014

I leveled crafting by breaking down stuff and selling the parts, I never made anything while leveling from L1 to L50

I put points into faster researching and deconstruction but nothing else
(Used to have hirelings but dropped them, I get more yellow parts from refining raw resources then I ever got from hirelings)

After L50, I put points into Alchemy and Provisioning as dropped potions cap at L50, but crafted go to V5 (and restore all three stats)

V5 blue food increase you max mana and stamina by 312 which is nice.

Dropped sets are better then crafted, and as I don't have to put any skill points into a trade skill but can still upgrade a V10 dropped item up to yellow, I don't see the point in putting any SK into crafting at the moment. (The rare motifs require points into a crafting line before you can learn them, but once they are learnt, you can get those points back)

At the moment I have spent 237 skill points. Maxed Bow weapon line, Maxed 1 Hand Sword and Board line, Maxed Restore Staff line, All class & Race lines, Fighter Line, Inner Beast (Undaunted) , Meteor and Magelight (Mage Guild), Vampire Line and the three armor lines

Mortelus · May 2014

OK cool thank you, I am just sticking with bow and not worried about other weapon lines... I am stubborn like that, may delve into DW but may not. So seems like I will have plenty of SP to spend on those crafting lines.

I was also dubious about putting points into hirelings and will probably drop them once I get enough money to respect my SP's.

Thanks for all your advice