I've never put more than 10 points into speed on any of my characters. I don't like rushing through games and I'd rather take my time and explore than get to my destination as fast as possible so I don't want my mounts to go too fast. If there was a way to go slower than the current top speed, or if the speed boost only affected galloping I might do it, but as it is I'm wary of going too far and ruining all my mounts.

Other than that I'm terrible at remembering to train my mount skills on any of my characters. I only do it if I remember when I'm passing a stable and I've got enough gold, so I think I've only maxed out carrying capacity and stamina on 2 characters who are both my oldest and the ones I've played the most. (Also one is my crafter so he's almost always in a city.)

So all in all I'd have to say the current system doesn't work well for me at all, but not for the same reasons it doesn't work for other people.

I do think it's strange that it's never been updated. It's a relic of the original, mandatory subscription business model (along with timed crafting research), giving players an incentive to log in every day and therefore keep their sub going even if they're not actively playing. That was redundant when the game switched to buy-to-play and personally I think Update 6, when they added collections and the mount skills changed to being character-specific would have been the ideal time to change it, but maybe they were wary of changing too much at the same time.

@shadyjane62
Sure, but can we agree that it’s a problem if people quit because they don’t know about continuous assault and only see the slow training rate of the mount? A lot of people that try ESO might not have friends playing it to teach them and a skill point that increase mount speed isn’t intuitive especially when the skill line is hidden until you do pvp.

I say this as a guy with 18 characters with max mount skills and the patience to do it two more times.

I was considering making this poll, but decided against. I am happy you did.

Let me spend my 45k ZOS. I am not buying from the crown store, and this predatory practice is why I haven't dropped a dime on the last 2 (3 in June) expansions.

Thanks for making this just a yes/no poll, without commentary on the selections.

xgoku1 wrote: »

Time-gating mount training is one of the big complaints I've heard from new players.

Getting a really slow mount and then realizing you need to grind for months per character up is a big NOPE that drove away some of my friends who tried the game.

I can't imagine being a new player and being geeked about the game, seeing some cool mount in the store, spending $40 on it, and then just trot along slowly because of this mechanic. Seems like buzzkill to me.

ApoAlaia wrote: »

No.

Mount training originally was ludicrous, then someone somewhere realised that they weren't selling us any 'premium' mounts with the system as it was.

So they replaced it with a system that not only allowed for the sale of 'premium' mounts but also enabled the publisher to sell us the solution to the inconvenience it presented (thus making the player's disposable income the pivotal element of their relationship with this system).

Hopefully a long hard look at this will be part of the QoL changes in Q4.

Exactly. It's selling a solution. I want ZOS to make money. Heck, I spend $100s a year on the game. This though? It feels too nudge-like.

Me to crown on new healer alt with new horse, hey wait for the heals! lol

Nope not at all. It's an artificial time sink. It has no other purpose.

Ok except to sell crown riding lessons lol.

Mount training is another reason I probably won’t be leveling the new class.

I don't mind it at all. But I'm never in any hurry for anything.

i straight up dont really bother with mount training until its fixed lol, i get it in slow trickles with the occasional training lessons from daily logins, or if i happen to be passing near a stablemaster waiting on a queue

i maxed out my mains mount and then said never again until they improve this system

I'm not in a huge hurry to go fast. I don't like going any faster than the speed we reach when maxing it at the Stablemaster, so I don't use continuous assault or any of the Champion Points that increase speed. But having to remember to put points into mount training every day for 6 months is ridiculous.

We are allowed to purchase all our bag and bank upgrades as soon as we have the gold to do it. Why is mount training any different?

Being able to raise only one attribute a day is too slow. Needs a relook.

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

I think they need to make it a gold dump again.

You should be able to train as many times as you want each day but the cost doubles each time. Then every 24 hours you go one training cost drops off.

So example

1g , 2g, 4g, 8g, 16g, 32g then if I stopped training for 3 days when I go back it would be 4g and start going up again. I'd have it start at the current 256g so 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 etc.

Yes new players would still have to go a day or a two at a time, but existing players even ones with millions wouldn't be able to fully train a mount.

Why does it matter if an existing player wants to max out their mount? How does this impact you. Leave it 250g and remove the daily limit. Or better yet, account wide mount upgrades.

I like mount training and legerdemain because they skill up slowly, especially the 1 upgrade per day of the mount training BUT the 1st speed levels of the mount training are a nightmare, it looks like you go faster by running, so I tend to "prepare" the new character doing only the mount speed upgrade for a few weeks then start actually playing it when the horse speed is acceptable.