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Will 2023 Whitestrake Mayhem include double telvar?

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In the comment below, @ZOS_Kevin acknowledges the cancelation of 2022's double telvar event, and mentions that the dev team was considering rolling the event into MYM/WM.

Will we be receiving double telvar with march's event? It was crushing to see one of our 3 PVP events cancelled for seemingly no reason last year.
ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
Hi All, so wanted to chime in here. We have passed on this thread and some of the general feedback about the lack of double Tel Var events. In chatting with the dev team, they are are considering ways to rolling more Imperial City aspects into Mid-Year Mayhems to help with this particular gap for additional Tel Var earnings. However, this is currently not definite or definitive. Still in the plans stages to see how implementation could work. Just wanted to highlight that here.

As noted, we have passed this to the events dev team and they will take a look at feedback in the thread. Hope this helps provide additional clarity.

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    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.
    Edited by jaws343 on January 23, 2023 7:24PM
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    Agreed that the tel var event should be separate from MYM, so that we don't have to divide our time between the two activities. At this point though, I'll take what we can get.
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    People don't play consecutively throughout the year, some people come back for a few months like from april to june then quit, they'll never see whitestrake's mayhem but they support the company, consider themselves long-term players, and would enjoy a double tel'var event. Then you have people who play consecutively and enjoy all events. There's people who only play at the starts and ends of campaigns, and people who only play for events and when their friends invite them to. All of the people described would love double tel'var events, the same way people would love double AP events.

    Most players who dislike or won't participate in double tel'var/AP events is because the servers get flooded with people farming AP/tel'var, meaning they can't get into campaigns instantly outside of peak times and the lag is bad, it's not because they don't want it-it's usually because there's more competition, more lag, and less server slot availability

    There's more they can do with a pvp zone event. They could do events to up the chances of Mourning Dew and Hakeijo as well as the colovian war torte recipe spawning, but don't for some reason. I can't remember the last double AP event, but such an event wouldn't drive down participation during MYM any more than it drives down participation right now (there's people sitting on hundreds of thousands of tel'var, and millions of AP, they're certainly not complaining when these events come around except due to lag and not being able to get into their campaigns)

    Currently the closest thing to an event is when seals of endeavor dailies say to kill players in PVP, do a quest in cyrodiil, or kill a roaming monstrosity in IC, and the weekend battlegrounds events- which seemed unannounced and had 0 hype.

    I think ZOS feels compelled to flesh out an event and make tickets be involved- they don't really need to be. Sure, some people will complain, but sometimes the participation in the event is more than enough to draw interest. On the flip side, they could make tickets involved and release some indrik war mount and could explore having tickets be redeemed for random AP/tel'var amounts, polymorphs, mats, and pvp gear, what would be the harm in that?
    Edited by Dr_Con on January 24, 2023 12:33AM
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    Probably not, and they'll continue to keep delaying midyear more and more so you don't even get your singular pvp event every 6 months as intended.

    Don't forget to buy crown crates though.
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    React wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    Agreed that the tel var event should be separate from MYM, so that we don't have to divide our time between the two activities. At this point though, I'll take what we can get.

    I don’t care about themed battleground weekends with extra AP. Why not have double tel var weekends? That I would participate in.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    React wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    Agreed that the tel var event should be separate from MYM, so that we don't have to divide our time between the two activities. At this point though, I'll take what we can get.

    I don’t care about themed battleground weekends with extra AP. Why not have double tel var weekends? That I would participate in.

    This, right here. Battlegrounds are not my thing (Not because I don't like the mechanics, more because people can get way too obsessive about scores, and it ceases to be fun) I'd love double Tel-Var weekends, or at least a double Tel-Var event separate from MYM. During MYM I'm too busy upping my alliance rank to go down into IC.
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    I'm not going into IC even for quadruple telvar.
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    Imperial city weekend...once a month or once every 2 months

    No tickets just addition tal var

    This resolve long standing issue of nobody ever coming there

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    Edited by FeedbackOnly on January 25, 2023 4:42AM
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    Imperial city weekend...once a month or once every 2 months

    No tickets just addition tal var

    This resolve long standing issue of nobody ever coming there

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    Imperial city weekend...once a month or once every 2 months

    No tickets just addition tal var

    This resolve long standing issue of nobody ever coming there

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    Yeah, this would be incredible. It would serve as something to look forward to for a much larger portion of the community that these sorry 25% AP BG events we've been having.

    I just don't understand why one weekend a month (10AM friday - 10AM monday or tuesday) can't be designated as a double TV event.
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    rpa wrote: »
    I'm not going into IC even for quadruple telvar.

    You can also get tel var from daedra, bosses, Legion Zero, chests, quests, etc. You don’t have to fight players exclusively.
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    React wrote: »
    Imperial city weekend...once a month or once every 2 months

    No tickets just addition tal var

    This resolve long standing issue of nobody ever coming there

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Yeah, this would be incredible. It would serve as something to look forward to for a much larger portion of the community that these sorry 25% AP BG events we've been having.

    I just don't understand why one weekend a month (10AM friday - 10AM monday or tuesday) can't be designated as a double TV event.

    Yes, it would be interesting to see the breakdown of content used vs content ignored. As in, what percentage of players actually use battlegrounds. The use of Imperial City is easier to ascertain, as there are only two instances of it outside of events.

    Tel var itself is limited in scope, as there are only so many things you can do with it, and many of those things are not tradeable. If they were to increase the scope, such as making mounts or houses available, or even make things like tel var and AP convertible to gold or other currencies, then you would see a lot more players involved and using the game modes.
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    rpa wrote: »
    I'm not going into IC even for quadruple telvar.

    I'll be i that little bar near the beach in Vulkul Guard. Come, Ill buy you a drink and we can oogle the good looking guys.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    React wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    Agreed that the tel var event should be separate from MYM, so that we don't have to divide our time between the two activities. At this point though, I'll take what we can get.

    I don’t care about themed battleground weekends with extra AP. Why not have double tel var weekends? That I would participate in.

    Excellent suggestion. Double tel var weekends is a great idea. Way better idea to increase participation than BG weekends.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Tel var itself is limited in scope, as there are only so many things you can do with it, and many of those things are not tradeable. If they were to increase the scope, such as making mounts or houses available, or even make things like tel var and AP convertible to gold or other currencies, then you would see a lot more players involved and using the game modes.

    The Tel Var sets need a revamp. I don't know anyone that uses them (not monster or dungeon sets, the Tel Var sets) and I never see them in any guides or suggestions. They're just not that good. One can only be used while in IC, but if there's no reason to be in IC because the rewards aren't worth it why bother with the set?

    Storage, hakeijo and maybe a polymorph are all that's really desirable but not enough to make it a popular zone. It's a shame because it can be fun.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Tel var itself is limited in scope, as there are only so many things you can do with it, and many of those things are not tradeable. If they were to increase the scope, such as making mounts or houses available, or even make things like tel var and AP convertible to gold or other currencies, then you would see a lot more players involved and using the game modes.

    The Tel Var sets need a revamp. I don't know anyone that uses them (not monster or dungeon sets, the Tel Var sets) and I never see them in any guides or suggestions. They're just not that good. One can only be used while in IC, but if there's no reason to be in IC because the rewards aren't worth it why bother with the set?

    Storage, hakeijo and maybe a polymorph are all that's really desirable but not enough to make it a popular zone. It's a shame because it can be fun.

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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Tel var itself is limited in scope, as there are only so many things you can do with it, and many of those things are not tradeable. If they were to increase the scope, such as making mounts or houses available, or even make things like tel var and AP convertible to gold or other currencies, then you would see a lot more players involved and using the game modes.

    The Tel Var sets need a revamp. I don't know anyone that uses them (not monster or dungeon sets, the Tel Var sets) and I never see them in any guides or suggestions. They're just not that good. One can only be used while in IC, but if there's no reason to be in IC because the rewards aren't worth it why bother with the set?

    Storage, hakeijo and maybe a polymorph are all that's really desirable but not enough to make it a popular zone. It's a shame because it can be fun.

    Agreed, and sets in general just need a revamp. There are legitimately hundreds of sets in the game that are totally useless. It would be great to see them dedicate some developer time to reworking some of the old sets, especially PVP ones, into useable choices again in the later half of this year.

    There are so many things they could do to incentivize people to participate in IC. Monthly events are literally the lowest hanging fruit possible, and they'd alone make a huge difference.
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    Is there a specific reason why the Whitestrake's event wasn't included in the event schedule on today's global reveal stream? Is it still happening mid march, like mentioned here? -->https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/625950/2023-q1-event-schedule-january-through-march

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    Seems like it used to be in January didn’t it?
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    ProudMary wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    React wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    I really hope so. Without dbl Tel Var, there really is no reason to step foot in Imperial City during Mayhem. Although, by having it there alongside double AP, I have a choice to make, farm tel var for the monster set shoulders and the style pages, or farm AP for Grand Overlord. Probably end up doing the AP grind only anyways. Much better with Telvar a separate event.

    Also, really missing the double maelstrom drops. Way too many set weapons to farm. They should just do an Arena event, where Craglorn, Murkmire, Western Skyrim, and Wrothgar are all lumped together as event areas with extra drops for Arena bosses or something, along with double loot drops in the zones/arenas.

    Agreed that the tel var event should be separate from MYM, so that we don't have to divide our time between the two activities. At this point though, I'll take what we can get.

    I don’t care about themed battleground weekends with extra AP. Why not have double tel var weekends? That I would participate in.

    Excellent suggestion. Double tel var weekends is a great idea. Way better idea to increase participation than BG weekends.

    Battleground one is fun...we can have both... there's 4 weekends in a month
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