Would you still play ESO if it was NOT a Elder Scrolls game?

Seraphayel · January 2023

No

No. It's at best a very mediocre MMORPG, what carries this game is the Elder Scrolls IP. Without it, this game would have been sunsetted years ago.

GBllt · January 2023

No

Edit: could have answered yes, because I was looking for a fantastic mmorpg. And because there is Elder Scrolls in the title, it strongly encouraged me to download the game. I never played a TES before that.

Jaimeh · January 2023

Yes

I've never played the single-player TES games, but I love playing ESO, so yes I'd still play it. Although through ESO I discovered the lore and universe of the series, and like to read up on lore and do questing, my favourite aspect of the game is the combat, and how the combat playstyle feels like.

Anumaril · January 2023

No

The fact that this game is set in a fantasy world I love is almost entirely what makes me play it. That being said, no other MMO out there compares to it. Playing ESO has made action combat and (at least partial) voice acting a MUST for any other MMO I consider playing. So far, none meets the mark.

So if ESO wasn't about the Elder Scrolls I think I'd just not play any MMO at all.

Mascen · January 2023

No

no, i specifically picked up the game because of my love for Oblivion and Skyrim. ZOS has overhyped/overpromised at times and the balancing of the meta has been spotty and contentious for some updates but its been my love for the Elder scrolls universe that has largely kept me here because it has allowed me to explore places that were once mysterious and loosely referenced in the main series such as the spires of Alinor or the jungles of Black Marsh all the while making steadfast friends.

Its the elder scrolls brand which gives the game its popularity. Otherwise this wouldnt stack up as well in the sea of MMORPG's currently available.

kieso · January 2023

No

Nop

Cameron991 · January 2023

No

I love eso with a passion and I would enjoy the game a lot even if it wasn’t tes however the only thing keeping me coming back is simply I love tes and the lord and this game delivers that greatly and it keeps me coming back

xclassgaming · January 2023

Yes

Probably, but not as much as i do.

SPR_of_HA_community · January 2023

Yes

I do not really care a lot about ESO or not ESO, I did not play series of any ESO games exept teso and do not know lore of game at all.

So such choise would not be based on TES or not TES game.

I base on : Have high level character, game is not playable but not to point to stop play if I already have good account / or is interesting to play.

I do not really care about anything else it is like promotion that have no real effect on me.

Aelorin · January 2023

I did not vote because this question is a bit strange.

What's the most common answer that you would get if you asked this in the Blizzard forums: Would you play WoW if it was not Warcraft?

I love ESO because I love Elder Scrolls. Then again I love ESO because I like
the beautifull art,
awesome music,
fully voice over NPC's,
exploring far away lands you know from lore,
the action combat,
the housing system,
the antiquities,
beginning to appreciate the card game.

So there is more to ESO then Elder Scrolls alone.

Ye_Olde_Crowe · January 2023

As I’m not really into MMORPGs, I wouldn‘t have bought this game had it not been Elder Scrolls.
But compared to the other two MMORGs I played before ESO, it turned out to be so solo play friendly that I stuck with it for 8 years now, and I don‘t see myself leaving anytime soon.

Elsonso · January 2023

Aelorin wrote: »

I did not vote because this question is a bit strange.

What's the most common answer that you would get if you asked this in the Blizzard forums: Would you play WoW if it was not Warcraft?

I don't think that is actually relevant, and the reason is that WoW basically took the baton and ran with it. WoW is Warcraft. Separating them is not something that makes any sense because they are the same thing.

This is not the case with ESO. ESO and Elder Scrolls are not the same thing. It is a spin off that uses Elder Scrolls, but does not own the baton. TES 6 owns that baton.

There is more to ESO than the lore. The bulk of this could have stood without Elder Scrolls attachment. The question is whether people would have bothered with it during it's 8 year long, going on 9 year long, beta?

ProudMary · January 2023

Yes

I don't care that's ESO is an Elder Scrolls themed game. It's not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense, and after thinking about it for a minute, I think we'd all be way better off if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed. Then we wouldn't have all these hard core casuals demanding ESO be turned into a vanilla, casual only Elder Scrolls game all the time.

Syldras · January 2023

No

ProudMary wrote: »

I think we'd all be way better off if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed. Then we wouldn't have all these hard core casuals demanding ESO be turned into a vanilla, casual only Elder Scrolls game all the time.

Where and who are those "casuals" who complain they don't want others to PvP or do trials or get a hard mode? The only thing I see are people who say they personally don't care for vet PvE or PvP themselves, but why would they forbid others to do that?

And in the end, isn't ZOS the one reponsible for every decision about this game? I'm not content with every choice they make either, and yes, I too do wonder why they do certain things or whom they cater to with that. But no matter the reasons, it's their decision, they have their vision for their own game, and if it's totally not what I want anymore, then it's time for me to leave (I do consider this if things get even worse). It would be hybris to expect them to change their whole game concept to cater to me, if they obviously have completely opposite ideas about what this game is supposed to be.

Grandma · January 2023

No

it was 99% of the reason i got into the game, so no i wouldn't be. I've tried many other MMOs but after you invest too much time in 1 it becomes impossible for others to compete with, so ive never truly replaced eso. itd be a different mmo if the tes license wasnt used for it.

Elsonso · January 2023

ProudMary wrote: »

I don't care that's ESO is an Elder Scrolls themed game. It's not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense, and after thinking about it for a minute, I think we'd all be way better off if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed. Then we wouldn't have all these hard core casuals demanding ESO be turned into a vanilla, casual only Elder Scrolls game all the time.

Elder Scrolls doesn't cause this. When I played WoW it could be very "vanilla casual", and that game has nothing to do with Elder Scrolls. I left between Pandas and Time Travel and it took just a couple days to get to max level each expansion and after that, a person could go back into casual mode with little difficulty.

Supreme_Atromancer · January 2023

No

ProudMary wrote: »

Then we wouldn't have all these hard core casuals demanding ESO be turned into a vanilla, casual only Elder Scrolls game all the time.

"we wouldn't have all these hardcore casuals demanding.."

You're language seeks to ostracise and denigrate those with a different perspective than you.

Who are "we"?

There are many "we"s. And every group has demands regarding the direction of the game. Yours, too. I'll refrain from trying to denigrate you, though. I encourage you to step up and have the calibre to do the same. This is a place to express and explore "ideas", not crap on others.

It's not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense,

The people making the game disagree with you. And as far as I can see, they are always striving to improve the "Elder Scrolls" experience, despite the challenge that the genre AND more particularly the genre BAGGAGE ("ITS A MMO, SO IT MUST BE PLAYED THIS WAY!!")

and after thinking about it for a minute, I think we'd all be way better off if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed.

again, who is "we" that will all be better off, and in that minute of thinking, how did you evaluating this well-being?

if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed.

I don't think there's much to support this idea.

I don't want to crap on ESO, I absolutely love it. But realistically, if all the MMO trappings and mechanics and stuff were such a marketable idea in the first place, why did they need to bother with the franchise in the first place?

Conversely, Bethesda gave the contract to someone to make an Online Elder Scrolls game, for Elder Scrolls people.

As it is now, it must compete to satisfy a broad range of people. It is what it is.

P.S., this response isn't meant to be disrespectful or to flame you. I read your response carefully and think its worthwhile to look at what's implicit here, because this IS at the core of a lot of the tension in the community. Making it explicit is a challenge to see it for what it really is.

Elsonso · January 2023

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Bethesda gave the contract to someone to make an Online Elder Scrolls game, for Elder Scrolls people.

Personal opinion here, but I wish they had given it to someone versed in Elder Scrolls. I don't think "Elder Scrolls" really 'clicked' with the early team working on ESO. I always felt like the team that built the foundation for the mechanics and gameplay never really understood what it was they were building. In many ways, ESO is like they were building Dark Age of Camelot 2 MMO with an Elder Scrolls veneer based on TES 4 Oblivion.

So... They built a fantasy MMO that used a lot of Elder Scrolls words, and that is not what the franchise needed. What it needed was an MMO that felt like Elder Scrolls, not just sounded like Elder Scrolls. I don't think the original team knew how to do that. I dunno. Maybe they did and just didn't want to. Wish they had.

wilykcat · January 2023

No

If Elderscrolls were owned by another company...🤔

It's a nope but I'm not sure. Can't decide on nope or maybe.

Supreme_Atromancer · January 2023

No

Elsonso wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Bethesda gave the contract to someone to make an Online Elder Scrolls game, for Elder Scrolls people.

Personal opinion here, but I wish they had given it to someone versed in Elder Scrolls. I don't think "Elder Scrolls" really 'clicked' with the early team working on ESO. I always felt like the team that built the foundation for the mechanics and gameplay never really understood what it was they were building. In many ways, ESO is like they were building Dark Age of Camelot 2 MMO with an Elder Scrolls veneer based on TES 4 Oblivion.

So... They built a fantasy MMO that used a lot of Elder Scrolls words, and that is not what the franchise needed. What it needed was an MMO that felt like Elder Scrolls, not just sounded like Elder Scrolls. I don't think the original team knew how to do that. I dunno. Maybe they did and just didn't want to. Wish they had.

Yes, I very strongly agree. I'd go as far as saying that they come to recognise this themselves.

What we can hope for now is that they listen. Several of the developers, representing different teams have emphasised that they listen to the community and take on feedback.

That tells me that there is an open channel which should be continually used to express what we believe an Elder Scrolls game is, what we believe they are getting wrong, what core elements need work.

Yes, the ship has sailed on some things. The fact that they need to appeal to **very** different demographics makes some of these things really difficult too. The debate in this thread alone can highlight that. Other things are probably fantastic, low-impact and infinitely possible, but have to come to terms with development reality. I think that just needs to be accepted, honestly.

If ZOS doesn't get it, its up to us to show them. They've said they want feedback. The only caveat is to do it in a way that's respectful, and clearly communicated.

I get the general (community) negativity and frustration, I've felt it too. I think I'm more resilient now, and more capable of being positive and sympathetic (read: ZOS simp fanboi) since I decided the few things that are crucial to me, and came to accept alllllll the other stuff I wouldn't be entirely happy about.

Panchaea · January 2023

No

Between horrible Crown Store tactics and poor decisions, even the TES brand isn't enough for me. I'd rather wait for fan projects like Tamriel Rebuilt, Skyblivion and Skywind because at least I know those projects are done out of sheer love for the franchise and have soul, something ESO has ditched.

LannStone · January 2023

Yes

I started playing ESO because of the hundreds of hours I played Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind
I like the lore
But if ESO came up with another lore, it wouldn't matter to me
There are a lot of other factors that keep me playing ESO that rank ahead of the lore

NextTuesday · January 2023

No

I've had the game since launch and overall enjoyed it as an MMORPG that happened to be set in a universe I already liked. Post U36 was the first time I stopped playing out of disgust. It's not fun any more, it's just a frustrating grind for mediocre reward and the same old tired crap from the studio. It's over-hyped and under-resourced. By trying to please everyone and prioritise sales they've only managed to alienate everyone and kill the game. I won't be getting into much TES going forward if this is how they treat a devoted player base to one of their biggest IPs of all time.

Eldartar · January 2023

Yes

YES because it's a really good game. if it wasn't I wouldn't play no matter who released it.

Northwold · January 2023

No

ProudMary wrote: »

I don't care that's ESO is an Elder Scrolls themed game. It's not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense, and after thinking about it for a minute, I think we'd all be way better off if ESO wasn't Elder Scrolls themed. Then we wouldn't have all these hard core casuals demanding ESO be turned into a vanilla, casual only Elder Scrolls game all the time.

I imagine ESO was designed rather carefully to pick up those "hard core casuals". That, presumably, was the business case, built off the Elder Scrolls name, and if you look at the game itself and most fora (this forum skews more to players who are *actually* hardcore -- "hard core casual" seems rather contradictory), such players appear to make up the majority of the player base. And that isn't surprising given that most people have jobs and lives and wouldn't find a game they had to dedicate hours a day to appealing.

ADarklore · January 2023

Yes

I had never played any other Elder Scrolls games or knew anything of the lore until ESO. It wasn't until playing ESO that I even decided to play Skyrim! So YES, I would absolutely play ESO if it wasn't an ES game because I honestly could care less about ES lore.

Iselin · January 2023

Yes

I've been playing TES games since Arena so looking at ESO was a no-brainer for me. But that was just checking it out.

I wouldn't have stuck it out for the better part of 9 years if I didn't enjoy the systems, especially the character-build options.

So yeah, I would play it because of the enjoyable systems even if it weren't an ES game.

Casdha · January 2023

No

No, and I have no desire to find out what the other Product ZOS has in development even is.

Curiosity in how they fill in Tamriel is the only reason I've stuck around as long as I have.

I don't play any MMO or team games as I don't have the time to be a reliable team member and the last thing I want is my gaming time to feel like another job.

SilverWF · January 2023

Yes

Yes
I'm not a huge fan of Elder Scroll universe at all

TaSheen · January 2023

No

SilverWF wrote: »

Yes
I'm not a huge fan of Elder Scroll universe at all

Interesting. Then why are you here?