Templars: Trading "Blinding Light" for "Radiant Destruction"

Lynx7386 · December 2014

I could see fiery breath being a channeled skill.

JLB · December 2014

Blinding Flashes was very, very situational, and you could actually live without it perfectly. Nonetheless, I don't like seeing it go. I guess I was still waiting for the right changes on the skill to squeeze all the defensive potential it had, specially having in mind they had 1 free slot in the morph that was totally useless.

But anyways, I'm sure there are more nice changes coming up that we don't know, and maybe they balanced the defensive bit Templars are losing with Blinding Light, like merging the former effect of Blinding Light with Blazing Spear or a revamped Javelin, which actually would be great.

Regarding the new skill, I think it's fine it's channeled. It will shine in PvE endgame mostly, which is where Templars' dps needs a boost.

Khivas_Carrick · December 2014

Caster Templar DPS* needed a boost lol us stamina junkies are fine XD

jrgray93 · December 2014

Those claiming Blinding Flashes is useless have clearly not used it in PVP. It was always fun to pop flashes and charge in, making your enemies miss left and right. I'll miss it, but I'll need more details to know whether or not the replacement spell will be worth it for me.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2014

tinythinker wrote: »

derpsticks wrote: »

It is unfortunate that my additional healing, heavy/light armor, puncturing sweeps, blazing spear, blazing shield, into empowering sweep pve aoe/survivability build is now useless given empowering sweeps is on a 24 second cooldown.

There used to be that chance, where earning just enough ultimate to cast empowering would save your ass. Now I will know up to 24s ahead of time if I am doomed. One mistake could cost me, whereas before I could afford an early mistake.

I have a build similar to that which works with either 5 light/2 heavy for magicka sustainability or 2 light/5 heavy for increased durability. I think I missed the 24s cooldown? Or is that a calculation based on the new ult gen system to be installed in 1.6?

@derpsticks‌

Source on 24s cooldown? For all ults or just this one?

derpsticks · December 2014

Just assuming 3 ult per second to reach 72 ult.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · January 2015

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

It really does boggle the mind how much they love their Dragonknights.

DKs are ESO's main USP, everything else class-wise is totally generic.

Tankqull · January 2015

i´m ok with the change but the actual dmg numbers are wonky.
while normally spamming lA+crushing shock i generated a higher dps than with the channeld executioner against mobs at <30% life...

bertenburnyb16_ESO · January 2015

I really liked blinding flashes for trash tanking alot of mobs, and now its gone...
& we get e channeled execute... meh thats not really helpfull for a tank

tnx alot zeni

The_Titan_Tim · December 2022

Bring back Blinding Flashes 2023

ssewallb14_ESO · December 2022

Such powerful necromancy.

...but yeah trading the class' only AOE CC for an execute was um... questionable.

The_Titan_Tim · December 2022

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Such powerful necromancy.

...but yeah trading the class' only AOE CC for an execute was um... questionable.

People have a problem with Radiant Oppression, we could always take it back to Vanilla.

gariondavey · December 2022

In b4 lock
Was a cool ability

The_Titan_Tim · December 2022

gariondavey wrote: »

In b4 lock
Was a cool ability

Yeah, I wouldn’t be opposed to the reversal. Although it would be nice to see it in tandem w/a Dark Brotherhood active skill line next year that could bring an execute.

Baconlad · December 2022

Absolutely not. Don't you freaking take away my 22k tooltip spammable execute in cyrodiil.

The_Titan_Tim · December 2022

Baconlad wrote: »

Absolutely not. Don't you freaking take away my 22k tooltip spammable execute in cyrodiil.

Blinding Flashes was so much better!

Nearby enemies got a 50% chance to miss all of their attacks for 6 seconds!

Edit: By that I mean it was really bad and that Radiant Oppression is way better in every way, shape, and form and that the only possible way to balance this ability would be to revert it to Blinding Flashes an obviously worse ability.

Sailor_Palutena · December 2022

I like how Soul Strike Ultimate is an even powerful version of Radiant Destruction.

Baconlad · December 2022

Yeah soul assault is so oppressive when built as a glass canon.

My tooltip on my PvP build is 138k.

That's with 7.5-8k spell damage
21k spell pen
37% crit
30% crit damage
All static these numbers are up always with vamp stealth passive. It hits like a meteor is dropped every second on ur target for 6 seconds.

My tooltip for RD is 22k!

The_Titan_Tim · December 2022

Is Blinding Flashes dead again? Rise! Walk the earth once more! *maniacal Necromantic laughter*

LadyLavina · December 2022

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

Bring back Blinding Flashes 2023

You sir are an ambitious necromancer

LadyLavina · December 2022

also @ZOS_Exile

CGPsaint · December 2022

I know that Necromancers are on the rise again, but this was quite the post resurrection!

LadyLavina · December 2022

CGPsaint wrote: »

I know that Necromancers are on the rise again, but this was quite the post resurrection!

Ah, CGP, I'm reasonably sure you and I verbally crossed swords back in the day on the forums :P Glad to see you're still around my dude

The_Titan_Tim · January 2023

It would be nice to see this ability returned in one fashion or another, to be honest.

LadyLavina · January 2023

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

It would be nice to see this ability returned in one fashion or another, to be honest.

Indeed, honestly. Necro-thread jokes aside. Would back such a change.

Also bring back Empower pre-changes so that next attack is boosted by 50% , that was cool.

Maybe make it less accessible as a counter balance.

Hi ZOS if you lock or delete this thread at some point. Hope you guys had a good New Years as I assume that's why this hasn't happened yet as the thread is from 2017 lol.

axi · January 2023

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Such powerful necromancy.

...but yeah trading the class' only AOE CC for an execute was um... questionable.

In theory shards were also an AoE stun. Jabs could also count in some way.

ssewallb14_ESO · January 2023

axi wrote: »

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Such powerful necromancy.

...but yeah trading the class' only AOE CC for an execute was um... questionable.

In theory shards were also an AoE stun. Jabs could also count in some way.

Shards could only stun one target per cast even though the damage is AoE. I would've been awesome if it was an actual AoE stun. The jabs snare was ok-ish in PvP but not really useful in, say, a tank scenerio where you need to CC a pack of mobs quickly to keep the group from getting nuked. The untauntable wolves in MHK for example

The_Titan_Tim · January 2023

Yeah, Shards used to be a “Disorient,” a stun that went through block, it was extremely good, I honestly don’t know why they made that change to remove it.

The_Titan_Tim · January 2023

LadyLavina wrote: »

The_Titan_Tim wrote: »

It would be nice to see this ability returned in one fashion or another, to be honest.

Indeed, honestly. Necro-thread jokes aside. Would back such a change.

Also bring back Empower pre-changes so that next attack is boosted by 50% , that was cool.

Maybe make it less accessible as a counter balance.

Hi ZOS if you lock or delete this thread at some point. Hope you guys had a good New Years as I assume that's why this hasn't happened yet as the thread is from 2017 lol.

Honestly, it’s good to get this ability back in people’s headspace, it’s one of those forgotten gems that all of these new players haven’t heard of and a little history isn’t exactly a bad thing, especially when the replacement to the ability keeps getting calls for nerfs.

It might be time to look back into the original ability as a solution? People will never be happy with how much damage Radiant Oppression does, due to the fact that it’s a channel, and is receiving a damage boost to compensate for being locked into the ability.

The system ZOS uses to balance abilities is very vague, if people knew how much added scaling per second a channel receives vs an instant cast in general terms, it might alleviate that, but I doubt that even with clarification, people would be happy.

axi · January 2023

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

axi wrote: »

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Such powerful necromancy.

...but yeah trading the class' only AOE CC for an execute was um... questionable.

In theory shards were also an AoE stun. Jabs could also count in some way.

Shards could only stun one target per cast even though the damage is AoE. I would've been awesome if it was an actual AoE stun. The jabs snare was ok-ish in PvP but not really useful in, say, a tank scenerio where you need to CC a pack of mobs quickly to keep the group from getting nuked. The untauntable wolves in MHK for example

Early version of the jabs had a stun tied to the last tick. As for shards being true AoE well I think it would be slightly too much since it was a delayed stun.