I smell spell crafting after reading it for some reason...

Only noticed it thanks to this poll.

Feels to me mostly like more of the same trust us, we will do it right this time, that was in the past few years letters.

As for the content for 2023, was hoping for a new class, do like the return to multiple year storylines, just hope the chapter has at least the same amount or more questing content than the usual chapter and DLC has.

I am largely reserving judgement on the second half of the year until I learn what the new system they are planning for at the end of next year.

You heard it here first, the most new requestet feature will be 10 more places for large houses xD

Elsonso wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

I read it.

I think they'll try to do what they are saying but, I'm not really sure what they are saying is as good as people might think.

If I'm not misinterpreting it they are effectively cutting two dungeons, one landmass, and a bunch of non-repeatable quests from the yearly rotation.

Yup. Less stuff, same great price.

Absolutely, call it EOL (end of life) or how to sunset a product

Beekeeper1 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

I read it.

I think they'll try to do what they are saying but, I'm not really sure what they are saying is as good as people might think.

If I'm not misinterpreting it they are effectively cutting two dungeons, one landmass, and a bunch of non-repeatable quests from the yearly rotation.

Yup. Less stuff, same great price.

Absolutely, call it EOL (end of life) or how to sunset a product

The Crafting Bag alone is worth the price of the sub. I still have no idea how people play without it.

And unless you have somehow already bought the other 999 DLC entries then you're still maintaining access to those with it. Yes, the output of new DLCs decreases but that is a very myopic and odd way to evaluate the utility of your sub.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Beekeeper1 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

I read it.

I think they'll try to do what they are saying but, I'm not really sure what they are saying is as good as people might think.

If I'm not misinterpreting it they are effectively cutting two dungeons, one landmass, and a bunch of non-repeatable quests from the yearly rotation.

Yup. Less stuff, same great price.

Absolutely, call it EOL (end of life) or how to sunset a product

The Crafting Bag alone is worth the price of the sub. I still have no idea how people play without it.

And unless you have somehow already bought the other 999 DLC entries then you're still maintaining access to those with it. Yes, the output of new DLCs decreases but that is a very myopic and odd way to evaluate the utility of your sub.

I have bought all but 1 of the other dlcs. So the value of my sub has decreased.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Beekeeper1 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

I read it.

I think they'll try to do what they are saying but, I'm not really sure what they are saying is as good as people might think.

If I'm not misinterpreting it they are effectively cutting two dungeons, one landmass, and a bunch of non-repeatable quests from the yearly rotation.

Yup. Less stuff, same great price.

Absolutely, call it EOL (end of life) or how to sunset a product

The Crafting Bag alone is worth the price of the sub. I still have no idea how people play without it.

And unless you have somehow already bought the other 999 DLC entries then you're still maintaining access to those with it. Yes, the output of new DLCs decreases but that is a very myopic and odd way to evaluate the utility of your sub.

I have bought all but 1 of the other dlcs. So the value of my sub has decreased.

Well, then I better understand your particular point of view but I don't think that that's how the majority of subs spend their Crowns.

After all, why buy the DLCs a la carte if you're already subbed? Isn't that just hedging against stopping your sub at some point in the future? If you feel as though the value is no longer there then it seems as though you will be able to safely un-sub and not miss much (apart from the Craft Bag, which, if it were me, would still be a deal-breaker on un-subbing, haha).

Yes. Sometimes I stop my sub because I don't like the direction of the game, and then re-up when I do. I don't mind playing without the craft bag, but it's definitely the main reason I sub at all. Also I like to be prepared.

Okay, I have mixed feelings.

I'm glad to hear any communication and even acknowledgment of the recent struggles. I wish we would get more communications throughout the year. I personally liked the year-long structure, but I know a lot of people don't, so hopefully that will make them happy.

In general, I'm still hopeful that ZOS will be able to restore the faith of some of the community members who have been frustrated lately. I do think ZOS tries to listen to the community and keep them happy (which they know is especially important next year), but I don't think they always hit the mark. Granted, with a huge and diverse player base, you'll always have some people who are unhappy with or apathetic to changes and new content. And people tend to be more vocal when they're upset.

Devoting time to addressing issues and bugs is important. There are also QoL changes I would like to see implemented. However, I'm a little dubious about devoting a whole quarter to these things. We'll see.

I'm both excited and nervous about the new system they will be introducing in Q4. Their systems usually find a fanbase, but sometimes it's a smaller portion of the community than anticipated. I also don't know if a new system (especially if it is one that doesn't affect my playstyle) will feel like enough for a quarter that used to add a whole new zone and questline.

I'm not thrilled that the balance of content is swinging away from hand-crafted quests to systems. The stories and new zones are my favorite releases. (Losing the dungeon DLC doesn't affect me much, to be honest.) I need to know what the new systems look like. It sounds like trials and arenas are also considered "systems," and that ZOS is using that term very broadly.

He mentioned that new players feel overwhelmed and vet players (end-game players, I assume) want more systems. What about players who have been here a long time and are still working through the stories? Quests are also not "one-and-done" for me because I play through them on multiple characters who make different choices. I would actually like to see more stories with meaningful choices and actual choice-based effects in the game. Then maybe the quests would feel less "one-and-done" for others too.

I've read it.

I want to know what this "highly requested feature" is. New weapons? New Skill line? New class? New race? New PVP zone/activity for the PVP'ers? New... something to add to the core gameplay?

I also want to know what they planning on doing in terms of new content in already existing zones? Does that mean old zones will be getting updated? Does it just mean new daily quests? New public dungeons? New arenas?

And more importantly than all of that.... are there any new guar.

If it was more broken year long nonsense, then I'd be disappointed. Change... change is good!

Less content to work on so hopefully actually works, polished, and better story. Also new systems is always nice.

If they're actually serious about what they say, then it could be a big deal.

The year long story was good in concept because it kept things organized and made it easier on the creative team to come up with a theme each year, as opposed to trying to come up with something new every update. But IMO, that also killed it because it forced the writers to purposely drag the stories out, effecting the quality of the overall story immensely. High Isle yearly story was trash. Blackwood yearly story was good in concept but poorly executed. Greymoor yearly story was also trash but the ending of it was okay. All my subjective opinion, of course.

As I've stated in the past, ESO's story telling truly shined with the Morrowind trilogy. Morrowind, Clockwork and Summerset felt great on their own, but all tied together into one large story with an epic ending that had huge stakes (stakes so high we'll likely never see anything like it again, tbh, but that's okay). When they released dungeons, they each had their own unique environments and stories separated from the year long story, which I really enjoyed. Scalecaller and Fang lair were the best IMO, but looking back at say, Shadows of the Hist. Yeah, I miss those days of dungeons.

I think they'll pull it off. [Snip] IE, when it's plagued with bugs, and you have a combat/balancing team that is so out of touch with their content and community that it makes players want to commit toaster-bath. They're incredibly hypocritical and can't even clear their own content on HM. 1-800-COME-ON-NOW.

Having said that, with the exception of their atrocious combat/balancing team and coders, they really do listen to their community and introduce a lot of cool stuff. They have the best outfit system, the best housing system, they introduced Transmutes, Collections tab, Account-Wide Achievements, etc. Like, they've done a lot of great things for the community. Their biggest failure so far with QoL is the Armory system. Skills/Gear swaps should've been a FREE QoL update that worked exactly like the Outfit system, where PC and Console players get 1 free slot and can buy additional ones so ZOS can generate revenue without completely screwing the community. Something they can change in their menus. Instead, we got the Armory system.....

Anyways, the fact that Q3, an ENTIRE quarter is dedicated to QoL updates and Bug fixes. That's huge. And that shows they are listening, even if they have some employees who don't. I'm interested to see what this new Q4 update will be. They've recovered from worse. They'll get back on their feet. Just sucks they had to steep so low before realizing their mistakes. Trial and Error, I suppose.

They still need to fix the Armory system doe, lol.

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I'd love a Quarter dedicated to QoL additions and bug fixing, perhaps then a lot of our wishes will actually bear fruit. Such as giving the Console client more Settings Options! LET ME MOVE MY CAMERA UP AND DOWN PLEASE.

Also to mention, Season of the Dragon wasn't the first multi Chapter story arc, it was the Daedric War starting in Morrowind thru to Summerset. Hopefully with a return to that mindset, next year's Chapter might actually be interesting. Hope it's southern Hammerfell, or Whiterun Hold.

NeKryXe wrote: »

Quarter 4 is somewhat scary. No one is asking for a new system. We play the game because we like the system. Quarter 2 and Quarter 3 are fine, because we need the bug fixes, new features but not at all a new system that will break all addons and might bring problems to players, like me, on low end computers. They are risking to lose many players with a new unwanted system. I really hope that it never happens. If I wanted a new system I'd pick a different game, If I'm still playing this after 8 years it's because I want and enjoy the same system. I believe that changing it might be the ruin of this game.

We're getting new systems virtually every year so you probably misinterpreted. Companions, tot etc. are new systems. Might be not what many of us wanted but those were implemented anyway for the benefit of others.