prof-dracko wrote: »Only for characters or actors I like. John Cleese as Cadwell and Bill Nighy as Eneric I always let play out.
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »This pretty much. Though not specifically the flirting, more that I can barely stand the writing and dialogue any more.Normally it had been 100%, but since High Isle, I sometimes just skimmed the text and then clicked to continue because all the flirting annoyed and bored me, to be honest.
Well, it's a mixture of both, I'd say. An excess of meaningless flirty chatter combined with the lack of interesting information. Plus all the repetitions. I really miss the writing of Morrowind, CWC and Summerset.
Whaaat, @Syldras , are you telling me you don't enjoy doing quests where many can be summarised to:
Kng_Ayumayuma wrote: »The voice acting is superb in this game.
How much of it do you listen to? Usually.
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »This pretty much. Though not specifically the flirting, more that I can barely stand the writing and dialogue any more.Normally it had been 100%, but since High Isle, I sometimes just skimmed the text and then clicked to continue because all the flirting annoyed and bored me, to be honest.
Well, it's a mixture of both, I'd say. An excess of meaningless flirty chatter combined with the lack of interesting information. Plus all the repetitions. I really miss the writing of Morrowind, CWC and Summerset.
Whaaat, @Syldras , are you telling me you don't enjoy doing quests where many can be summarised to:
@NotaDaedraWorshipper This sums it up perfectly. Sadly. Maybe they think their customers won't realize if they mix in enough "hey good-looking"s, "my dear"s and invitations to spend the night with random lady/guy npc one has just met? Considering they also seem to assume that the average player wasn't able to memorize the simpliest task they were given just 10 seconds ago, they seem to reckon we were easily distractable... If they realize that players still complain about uninspired quests and vacuous dialogue, what might come next? Even more cheap "romantic" dialogue? Bare-chested worshippers of Dibella at every street corner? A dozen of random puppies and kittens roaming through town? Or might there be a tiniest chance to improve the storywriting and quest design again? I'm not sure about that, and that's really deplorable. TES has such a deep lore, so many interesting stories could be told. Actually I had been looking forward to a Telvanni Peninsula chapter so much, but now I truly hope it will still be a few years until it's on their schedule - so maybe writing will be back to an acceptable level until then.
Seeing some replies in this thread makes me depressed. No respect for VA these days...
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »This pretty much. Though not specifically the flirting, more that I can barely stand the writing and dialogue any more.Normally it had been 100%, but since High Isle, I sometimes just skimmed the text and then clicked to continue because all the flirting annoyed and bored me, to be honest.
Well, it's a mixture of both, I'd say. An excess of meaningless flirty chatter combined with the lack of interesting information. Plus all the repetitions. I really miss the writing of Morrowind, CWC and Summerset.
Whaaat, @Syldras , are you telling me you don't enjoy doing quests where many can be summarised to:
@NotaDaedraWorshipper This sums it up perfectly. Sadly. Maybe they think their customers won't realize if they mix in enough "hey good-looking"s, "my dear"s and invitations to spend the night with random lady/guy npc one has just met? Considering they also seem to assume that the average player wasn't able to memorize the simpliest task they were given just 10 seconds ago, they seem to reckon we were easily distractable... If they realize that players still complain about uninspired quests and vacuous dialogue, what might come next? Even more cheap "romantic" dialogue? Bare-chested worshippers of Dibella at every street corner? A dozen of random puppies and kittens roaming through town? Or might there be a tiniest chance to improve the storywriting and quest design again? I'm not sure about that, and that's really deplorable. TES has such a deep lore, so many interesting stories could be told. Actually I had been looking forward to a Telvanni Peninsula chapter so much, but now I truly hope it will still be a few years until it's on their schedule - so maybe writing will be back to an acceptable level until then.
@Syldras I often do like it when a few character can be flirty by themselves without the player having to do it first, but not in the way ESO has been doing it lately. It just feel almost childish despite its nature because of all the bad constant innuendos, where some feels more like an innuendo of an innuendo. It's cringey and reminds me of the dev stream when they showed that "Smolder Scrolls" thing. I couldn't stand watch it because of the writing.
Then when I'm not having innuendos thrown at me, I will on my way to the next quest see those random cute/funny things that seem to be added more and more such as dancing dogs and meme refences. At the quest I will get constant repetitive dialogue and forced dialogue without any roleplaying, not even the illusion of choice, where my character will act like a fool. There seem to be so little care and love for Elder Scrolls and its lore lately, and to take some of your words but with a change and say it feels cheap, bland and cartoony, with an attempt to be mature.
It's sad isn't it? There is some chapter you're looking forward to be next one, but now you also dread it would be next with the writing and design.
We can hope with their post about to stop doing the year long stories and such that they have actually listened and will put more effort into it.
And to keep this a bit to topic, it's these things that makes it hard for me to listen to the VA lately. It's not because I don't want to, I do, but the writing just makes me speed read through the dialogue and skim most of it. No one talks like this!Seeing some replies in this thread makes me depressed. No respect for VA these days...
I feel sorry for the VAs who has to voice the dialogue these days. It feels wasteful of their work and talent.I hope it will change.