Dailies and their fomo are really souring ESO for my group and I

LikiLoki · December 2022

When I launch the game, I immediately do the same actions: craft daily tasks, preparing goods for the store. After that, I feel exhausted as after hard work and usually turn off the game. I'm doing this on 8 characters. I can't stop

markulrich1966 · December 2022

I realized not long ago, that endeavours and a few writs are actually the only reason that keeps me playing, apart from chapter releases and events.
It is always difficult to break a routine, but I decided to try it a week ago, when Fallout 76 was on black friday sale.
I just wanted to reduce the grind, but meanwhile have not log into ESO for 3 days.

Most difficult will be to decide how to proceed with my guild memberships, Most likely I will have to cancel those.

Point is, that I suddently feel free and relaxed, no longer stressed from the grinding pressure.

I still like many aspects of ESO, and certainly will play again at events and new chapters. But playing content (writs/endeavours) just because there is nothing else attracting me, has an end now.
I suggested more than once to make zone dailies in newer chapters more rewarding (like those in elsweyr and summerset), but it did not happen. In addition such quests got even more difficult and painfull with the U35 changes, as I had to rebuild my characters from scratch (only playstyle I like now is a heavy staff attack build).

For events it does not matter, when 30 players burn down a boss in 10 seconds, and this seems to be the new mainstream, trying to attract people with events, ignoring most other aspects of the game. So I just adapt. But it is ok, I really enjoy Fallout.

zaria · December 2022

I tend to do crafting writs on 7 alts most days, I do them in the morning watching tv or youtube on screen 2.
It that don't work I simply skip.
Watching stuff on screen 2 is is also an nice time to do surveys or other boring stuff.
As for events unless its double drops I need, I just to the stuff to get the tickets.
Sometimes I runs alts trough delves in an event to get the skyshards and event bonus boxes and the tickets.

Endavors, doing them unless it takes to long time.
Love use ultimate 4 times, do one quest and craft x items.
Hates the kill two public dungeon bosses in (zone) only do early morning, quest in Cyrodil town then the map is horrible for you.

Nastassiya · December 2022

Wing wrote: »

every day I try to log into ESO to a short laundry list of chores that just grate after years.

(ONE CHARACTER BTW, think of people with alts. . .)

-collect login
-go to a favored town to do my crafting writs
-turn them in
-clean up inventory afterword
-check endevours
-try to do 3 that are the least painful
-check and make sure i do/did the weakly that was the least painful
**or skip if it's just too uggggg**
-deal with master crafting writs (do/store/sell/whatever.)
-deal with surveys (usually do them in bunches like doing laundry)
-destroy the alchemist survey in malbal tor out of spite.
-recheck list fast

THEN

see if i feel like playing eso.

I spend over an hour a week playing ESO, split across several days, doing busy work and chores that i dont enjoy or want to perform because their rewards are just so heavily front loaded as to encourage THAT EXACT BEHAVIOR. let's not discuss the laundry list of popular mods that do their best to automate this process.

congrats, you got me to login every day at the expense of your game being enjoyable. . .

if you could do me a favor.

roll all that BS into ONE login reward, just lump my crafting rewards, my survey rewards, my endevour seals and my daily login into:
one
Big
BEAUTIFUL
-login reward-

I promise I will login every day to see what I get!

and then you will agree to get out of my way and let me play the game (as an aside I have not completed the expansion or the dlc yet. . .BUT I GOT ALL MY ENDEVOURS DONE RIGHT ZOS!)

Then take a break from the game. This is an addiction problem that you're suffering from. You're not required to do this. I login almost exclusively for trials. I do not do any of that other stuff because it doesn't matter for me.

AzuraFan · December 2022

I only play my main, so I don't do anything on multiple characters.

Every day, I do the daily writs and any easy daily endeavors (either I don't need to leave a town or whatever it requires will take less than 10 minutes). I'll do the weekly endeavor (through the week) if it will take less than an hour total or it's something that will happen through normal gameplay. Otherwise I'll skip it.

I don't do surveys or master writs on a daily basis. I do them when I'm in the mood to do them. I used to have FOMO with the master writs and would hang on to them if I hadn't learned the style yet. Now if I can't craft one, I just delete it.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

I realized not long ago, that endeavours and a few writs are actually the only reason that keeps me playing, apart from chapter releases and events.

I'm not quite there yet, but when I run out of things to do, which I expect to happen within the next 2-3 months, I'll be in that position. At that point, I'll probably take a break rather than logging in every day, but I'll see when I get there.

Nestor · December 2022

Some days I do Dailies. Some days I don't.

SeaGtGruff · December 2022

I look at certain daily activities as a job that needs doing for one reason or other-- usually to earn money, but sometimes to do some necessary duty or responsibility.

Other activities are more like hobbies or pastimes-- done for pleasure or entertainment.

Once you've earned enough money for any big purchases you've been saving up for, it can be difficult to "hang it up" and retire from the daily grind so you can relax and just enjoy yourself. But if or when you can finally do that, it can be so liberating.

Panchaea · December 2022

It says a lot when this is all the content we do. I actually do miss the days in 2014 where getting Veteran Rank 10 actually gave you something for your efforts, even if the content was still sparse. You actually got something and didn't have to pay an extra $15-55. 100% understand how the OP feels.

Nowadays I do writs on three characters, get my box from Tideholm, then log. Some days I farm in Bal Foyen but I stop because there's really no reason to - most of my PVE/PVP groups have moved on to other games.

Agreed that we should all take breaks when this happens, but this is also a symptom of the game's lack of content. If a game can't keep you engaged even for thirty minutes without relying on FOMO holiday events or Crown Store exclusives/seasons, then it's not particularly successful (at least, successful in bringing in engaging gameplay - financial success is a different story and can stem from sunken cost fallacy, video game addiction, and other issues). The two types of success are not identical.

Danikat · December 2022

I've made this mistake a few times over the years, feeling like I have to do crafting dailies even when I have limited time and would rather do something else.

I agree with the people saying the solution is to not do them every day, but I know it doesn't seem that simple. My approach is firstly to remind myself that ultimately I'm getting gold and furnishing plans from them and if I don't have time to use those then getting them is pointless, so taking time to prioritise other things is like taking time to do master writs and surveys: it's part of the same process and using up the rewards I got from the dailies.

Secondly I tell myself I won't skip the dailies, but I'll leave them for later. Then I don't get time to do them so I miss a day and after it happens enough I've broken the habit, at least for a while.

INM · December 2022

Some players can't resist those and devs know that". Basically it's a cheap way to increase players retention. One day I caught myself logging into the game just to do all those dailies and not to play the game. I wasn't able to resist even if i knew that i don't need all this "free" stuff. Even if i knew that i don't enjoy doing these chores. I kept playing by inertia for months and it led to burnout. One day i forgot to login to do dailies and thought "ahh, i don't care". Haven't logged since then.

redlink1979 · December 2022

If a game feels like a job, you're doing it wrong.

At the moment I do the daily crafting writs when I feel like doing them, I do the endeavors when I feel like doing them.
There's absolutely no problem if I "loose" 10/20/30 or even 45 seals in a day.
I do what I want to do (PvE and/or PvP). Nothing else.

Have a good time all the time.

Mesite · December 2022

I have a quick query - what about scrying? It's not daily but becomes time limited after you get the lead.

Grizzbeorn · December 2022

Or, radical thought... you could just log in to complete the one step, 'Play ESO.'

It's YOU who has created the artificial requirement to do all of those other things every day.

You don't HAVE to do EVERYTHING EVERY DAY.

DMuehlhausen · December 2022

then stop doing them for awhile. when you start feeling this way about a game and it's daily things to do it's normally time to take a break.

sarahthes · December 2022

I do writs on 1-6 toons depending on my mood. I do 15 on Saturday and Sunday, mount train the 3 that aren't maxxed on weekends also. Bank surveys til the weekend. Bank master writs until the next double XP event (destroy jewelry).

Then I just do whatever gameplay I'd planned on doing for the day. On weekends that often includes surveys and treasure maps but it depends on how many I have.

I get endeavors by accident, if they pop during my regular gameplay. I only do dungeons if I need gear or transmutes or keys.

Edit: I promised myself when I came back to the game that I would only do fun things. I will not burn out again.