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Block is broken even more lol

n333rs
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You have to relog in order to block again
Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 5, 2022 5:46PM
  • n333rs
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    Fix it immediately I am too lazy to relog to undo this
  • tomofhyrule
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    I can't seem to replicate this.

    My character is blocking through roll dodge and bash so that seems fine. I just tested going to different zones, running out of stam, heavy attacking, bashing, getting knocked down, and all of them held my block as expected and I could reapply it afterwards.

    What is causing block to permanently drop?
  • mocap
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    did vLoM as tank. Seems fine. Meditate -> block works ok too.
  • festegios
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    it’s fine until it isn’t, and then you either need to relog or leave instance to fix

    Console have had this bug from patch.
    Separate to the bash/roll bug.

    This one stops you from actually being able to block at all; you can perform all other actions still though.
  • festegios
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    There’s no specific way that I’ve found to force it to happen; and it can happen to anyone
  • React
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    So fixing the perma-heavy attack bug caused the block drop bug, and fixing the block drop bug caused the perma-disabled block bug to spread to PC.

    Fixing siroria broke siege and pollen/standard.

    Does zenimax have a QA department? Do you guys test these fixes after the developers write them?

    Continually breaking things like this only further validates the recent concerns about developers being shifted away from eso to the new IP, when ESO is probably at it's lowest point ever.
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  • Hyperioxes
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    Gonna keep editing this message as I'm testing more stuff

    I've had people report it to me that block can now be broken by:
    -bar swapping while sheathing/unsheathing (this one I managed to replicate myself)
    -bar swapping while entering/exiting water (this one I managed to replicate myself)
    -bar swapping while opening doors (unconfirmed)
    -bar swapping while getting knocked back (unconfirmed)

    I've also had someone tell me that people who used Oakensoul in his group never got this bug so most likely it's always about bar swapping in combination with another action. Some people also say that they had this bug happen to them mid-combat so there's gotta be more causes than what I listed. I've made a video where I'm replicating the issue by bar swapping while sheathing/unsheathing - https://youtu.be/Oo3r7htWAx8

    After I made the video I learned about way easier method of replicating the bug (it was posted by Damsik in Nefas' esoU discord) - try to light attack with your weapons sheathed and instantly barswap
    Edited by Hyperioxes on December 5, 2022 5:08PM
  • beer781993
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    Ridiculous beyond reasoning. 🙄
  • n333rs
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    At least the old bugs you could work around but this you cannot. Unironically wish the old ones were back over this nonsense.

    What am I supposed to do mid combat? What about PvP, Arenas, Dungeons, Trials? Just log off and reset the run if I want an achievement? Have everyone relog just in case? Old bugs were the matter of learning to go around them but this you just can't work around. You're no longer dropping block for 0.2s and putting it back up. You have to first - finish the fight then log off then log back in.
  • blue_peaceful_Manticore
    But do we have 100% working CrownStore? I wanna buy some Dyes and need to know if its all ok.
    Edited by blue_peaceful_Manticore on December 5, 2022 5:10PM
  • virtus753
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    Hyperioxes wrote: »
    -bar swapping while getting knocked back (unconfirmed)

    Getting knocked back when barswapping last night in a dungeon got my character into a state where not only could he not block or barswap, but he couldn't light attack, heavy attack, roll dodge, or use any abilities. (They were all grayed out.) He could sheathe and unsheathe his weapons and walk around. Nothing else until I ported out of the dungeon. (ReloadUI did not fix anything.) Looking at the inventory screen, I saw that the weapon swap button was also grayed out with the red message "cannot swap weapons in your current state" - exactly as it might look with Oakensoul or in werewolf form.

    So that part of the block bug might be more widespread and not be related to the specific fix from today's patch. On the other hand, it could be, if it's related to being in gamepad mode.
  • Malthorne
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    The next block fix attempt isn’t likely to be live until after the new year.
  • Jaraal
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    React wrote: »
    So fixing the perma-heavy attack bug caused the block drop bug, and fixing the block drop bug caused the perma-disabled block bug to spread to PC.

    Fixing siroria broke siege and pollen/standard.

    Does zenimax have a QA department? Do you guys test these fixes after the developers write them?

    Continually breaking things like this only further validates the recent concerns about developers being shifted away from eso to the new IP, when ESO is probably at it's lowest point ever.

    It seems like a falling domino effect, where each successive bug fix introduces another bug, ad infinitum.

    Ubiquitous quality control issues are never good for a company's reputation. It can affect interest in and sales of future products.
  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

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    Thank you for your understanding.
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