I can eliminate my other 6 DDs, probably even more since the builds are all the same, and that would be nice and fun for me too.

FelisCatus wrote: »

They need to make it so weapons restore your highest attribute stat. Right now if you're a magicka skills because you're a Mag DK but using daggers on frontbar and 2h on backbar your heavies won't restore magicka only stamina. This is an issue vice versa.

IF it's your dominant stat. Bows and melee should also restore magicka, staffs should also restore stamina. For hybridisation to work properly. That's my main gripe with it.

Then you can just as well get rid of the two resource system and replace them with one power stat. This way you at least have to put some thought into your build.
I wouldn't mind a set that does this because then you'd have an opportunity cost.

FelisCatus wrote: »

They need to make it so weapons restore your highest attribute stat. Right now if you're a magicka skills because you're a Mag DK but using daggers on frontbar and 2h on backbar your heavies won't restore magicka only stamina. This is an issue vice versa.

IF it's your dominant stat. Bows and melee should also restore magicka, staffs should also restore stamina. For hybridisation to work properly. That's my main gripe with it.

There has to be SOME trade offs somewhere for both hybridization to work and also not be broken.

CoronHR wrote: »

i'm utterly displeased with hybridization and i purposefully don't utilise it ever. light armour - mage, medium armour - warrior. full stop

On an Oakensoul build I find I can not sustain if I just use skills with the same resource as my spammable.

The fun thing about hybridization is that you get to break the mold. But if "the mold" is removed completely then there is no novelty to it anymore and rather than opening up more ways to play the game, the existing ways to play the game become more same-y.

It was always the wrong choice to make hybridization the standard rather than the exception. It could have been a fantastic CP slottable or set bonus that would allow your abilities to benefit from whichever stat is higher (not like the old Pelinal's) because that would have made hybrid builds fundamentally different from traditional builds. Now every build is hybrid as you are otherwise holding yourself back in terms of damage potential if you don't go hybrid. And update 35 taught us that it doesn't matter if you are running a suboptimal setup, because ZOS will nerf you regardless if they deem the damage that the top players are dealing as "too much".

A lot of hybridization changes made sense, but it could have been handled so so so much better and now ESO's combat is a whole lot less enjoyable because of it. You can still have fun with it, but there is no novelty in trying a different build and that's killing the replayability factor for ESO and thus hurting player retention.

And despite all this, Mundus stones are still not hybridized despite that making a whole lot more sense than your weapon swings dealing damage based on your ability to cast spells. But what do I know.

In the next patch, as part of continuing to streamline gameplay and improve performance, pvp and pve will both be eliminated. Plus, an exciting new set of tales of tribute cards will be released as well as a new houseguest which will be available in the crown store.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

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People are pretty much forced to play hybrid if they want to be viable because content will always be balanced around what's theoretically possible, not what your personal preference is. So much for "play the way you want" - ironically this mantra has become self-defeating in its implementation.

This isn‘t true. You can absolutely have a viable pure build just like before. Your issue is that it isn‘t meta (read: top 1%) anymore. But let us be honest. Meta was and is by its very nature only one build combination that theoretically outshines everything else by a very small margin.
Doesn‘t mean it‘s absolutely necessary except you are score hunting. And if your interests fall in that level of play, you couldn‘t care less what build you are chasing as the current FotM.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

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People are pretty much forced to play hybrid if they want to be viable because content will always be balanced around what's theoretically possible, not what your personal preference is. So much for "play the way you want" - ironically this mantra has become self-defeating in its implementation.

This isn‘t true. You can absolutely have a viable pure build just like before. Your issue is that it isn‘t meta (read: top 1%) anymore. But let us be honest. Meta was and is by its very nature only one build combination that theoretically outshines everything else by a very small margin.
Doesn‘t mean it‘s absolutely necessary except you are score hunting. And if your interests fall in that level of play, you couldn‘t care less what build you are chasing as the current FotM.

A meta build is just as important for a low skill player simply trying to clear content as it is for a high skill player trying to top leaderboards. Better builds bring everyone up, not just the top 1%. Sure, high skill players can complete any content in the game with a suboptimal build, but not everyone is a high skill player. Some/many of us need help from a high-end build just to clear content.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Assert false premise as truth and carry on from there.

Maybe, instead of mag or stam versions of a class there's now mag, stam, and hybrid. Each equally viable (work on that still needed...), each dependent on different class skills. How does that make all classes the same?

Hybridization has increased the number of must-have non-class skills in most builds (because now any given build can/should pull from both mag and stam skill sets). The result is that builds have fewer class skills and are therefore less distinct from one class to the next (this is especially the case for tanks and healers).

If it were up to me, I would solve this by balancing class skills to always be stronger than non-class equivalents, leaving non-class skills as gap fillers for when your particular class doesn't have an alternative. This would at least reduce the degree to which everyone uses the same core skills regardless of class.

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

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People are pretty much forced to play hybrid if they want to be viable because content will always be balanced around what's theoretically possible, not what your personal preference is. So much for "play the way you want" - ironically this mantra has become self-defeating in its implementation.

This isn‘t true. You can absolutely have a viable pure build just like before. Your issue is that it isn‘t meta (read: top 1%) anymore. But let us be honest. Meta was and is by its very nature only one build combination that theoretically outshines everything else by a very small margin.
Doesn‘t mean it‘s absolutely necessary except you are score hunting. And if your interests fall in that level of play, you couldn‘t care less what build you are chasing as the current FotM.

A meta build is just as important for a low skill player simply trying to clear content as it is for a high skill player trying to top leaderboards. Better builds bring everyone up, not just the top 1%. Sure, high skill players can complete any content in the game with a suboptimal build, but not everyone is a high skill player. Some/many of us need help from a high-end build just to clear content.

Fair enough. But mind that meta build is what's mathematically best, not what's best/ easiest to use. It doesn't matter if meta performs best by 2% in the hands of a high end player under perfect conditions, if that performance drops off steeply because of lacking skills for rotation or simply because other parameters (outside buffs/ healing) leave you on dead on the floor.

It sure is a "base" you can alter to your content, but depending how far that goes we're back again at "viable", which means nothing but being suited for an idividual to clear content.

However, I kinda agree that the high end archievements and leaderboards usually demand close to meta builds.
Yet that doesn't mean that pure builds aren't able to complete difficult content.

For me (but obviously not everyone), hybridization has made classes and builds lose the identity that made them feel unique to me. I accept that it is now the way of things, and the game has become diluted. Playing a fantasy game I doubt I'll ever find joy in magicka sorcerers with greatswords or stamina dragonknights with magical staves.