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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Destruction Staff - Fire, Frost and Shock

Jambler
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What has your experience been so far with the different elements?
Any preferences?
  1. Do you prefer the knock-back, stun or the disorientation?
  2. What made you decide? Stats, cool animation, or rpg build?
  3. Do you want to see any other elements?
  • Ardais
    Ardais
    I am actually planning on switching away from destruction staff. I was forced to switch weapons for a quest in order to kill an NPC that had healing orbs because the staff just could not attack fast enough (I was doing a fast attack as well).

    The destruction staff just doesn't seem to do a ton of damage, and the first skill you can get is really nice as fire, but the lightning was really bad and I never got to try the frost one.
  • Loopy27
    Loopy27
    I do like the slowing effect from the frost staff but the knock back is nice, crystal shard is a good ability to use in conjunction with frost staff and wall of elements, knock back & slow
  • Master_Quack14b14_ESO
    First of all, if you are using Destruction Stave abilities then you will NOT be using them for their raw damage potential, but for their synergistic and status effects.

    Destructive Touch:
    -morphed to Destructive Clench can give you the ability with a fire stave to knock back a target and also stun a target. This ability is VERY effective to clear a mob off of a squishy class such as a mage or a healer.
    -morphed to Destructive Reach can give you the ability with a frost stave to freeze a target in place at a fair distance and still dps the target without the effect breaking early. On my Sorcerer I use this as part of my main rotation because the only spell I have that is even remotely close to this is Encase. Encase has a shorter range and ONLY roots. Destructive reach hits from further, does damage, AND roots for the same amount of time.

    Wall of Elements:
    - Great for AoE builds like a Sorcerer that does dungeons and runs with Daedric Mines, Daedric Curse Lightning Splash, and Mages' Fury. It just adds a fifth AoE ability to the tool kit and can be obtained at a much lower level.

    Force Shock:
    - Does decent damage and when fully buffed has a 55% chance to Snare for 5 seconds, 55% chance to apply a fire DoT for 5 seconds, or a 55% chance to reduce the target's damage output by 10% for 5 seconds.
    - When morphed to Force Pulse it hits two additional targets that are burning/concusses/chilled for 50% additional damage. This is eventually replaced by Impulse. However, after the next patch this spell will do more damage than Impulse so it may be worth using along side Impulse in the future.

    Weakness to Elements:
    - Will be one of the, if not the most, important spells for any class dealing elemental damage come end game content.
    - When morphed to Elemental Drain is a very powerful opening effect. It not only reduces the targets spell resistance by a whopping 40%, but, also returns magicka when you cast an elemental spell against said target.
    - Becomes even stronger of an effect for other players that use melee weapons enchanted with fire/frost/lightning enchants. Allows you to do combos like open up with a destruction stave and then swap to melee weapons that do elemental damage to regenerate magicka.
    - Has a very long duration

    Impulse:
    - When morphed to Elemental Ring has a 55% chance to apply status effects in an AoE.
    - Will become very strong when followed up by Force Pulse spam after the next patch (See above).


    So, in conclusion, All of these abilities synergize very well with Dragonknight's and Templar's fire abilities as well as a Sorcerer's Lightning abilities. Not to mention it allows a player the ability to make FULL AoE damage builds or drastically increase the penetration of a boss' high armor values. They all may not be beneficial or preferable depending on whatever class you chose to play but they do provide an additional skill set for build tweaking and definitely have group synergy.

    ~Æther
    Edited by Master_Quack14b14_ESO on May 5, 2014 5:47AM
  • fantom
    fantom
    5 AOE abilities is overkill, you're wasting slots on your bar.

    40% spell resistance is worthless while leveling, it will increase damage by MAYBE 5%. Nothing in the outer world has significant spell resist.

    And in dungeons/group play, sword and board's FIRST ability can be morphed to provide the same debuff.

    The elemental boosts of destruction staff are nice, but some of the strongest class abilities in the game (particularly sorc) are generic magic damage and not of any element. That means no synergy.
  • Khazaad
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    Can resistance be a negative value that increases damage received?
  • Ralathar44
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    Drop them all and play bow for a weapon that does what Destruction Staff does, only better, until Zenimax buffs Destruction Staff.
    Some questions answer themselves:
    So what is the problem with building specifically against an oil farm????

    oil farm????
  • redsteven
    redsteven
    Soul Shriven
    Khazaad wrote: »
    Can resistance be a negative value that increases damage received?
    I'd like to know this too.

  • Master_Quack14b14_ESO
    I doubt it with their current overcharging system....
  • tjvannevel_ESO
    redsteven wrote: »
    Khazaad wrote: »
    Can resistance be a negative value that increases damage received?
    I'd like to know this too.

    No. You can reduce an enemy's resistance by a % not by a set amount.
  • idk
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    Ardais wrote: »
    I am actually planning on switching away from destruction staff. I was forced to switch weapons for a quest in order to kill an NPC that had healing orbs because the staff just could not attack fast enough (I was doing a fast attack as well).

    The destruction staff just doesn't seem to do a ton of damage, and the first skill you can get is really nice as fire, but the lightning was really bad and I never got to try the frost one.

    All you had to do was an AoE and it would kill all the orbs. The orbs have an extremely small hp. The Dstaves are perfect for that. At lower levels the Wall of Elements with any of the morphs and at higher levels Impulse is available. Both do the trick extremely well.
  • Zanzu
    Zanzu
    Destruction staff at the moment is only good for additional crowd control or AoE, raw damage on single targets is a joke compared to almost any class ability, but the AoE potential is astounding and the debuffs aren't bad either. Sadly as a templar the first is out of the window as I can just use templar abilities which do the same thing as destruction staff abilities but with better damage at around the same magicka cost, so I'm left with elemental wall and impulse, along with elemental weakness against any higher health mobs. Looking forward to destruction staff buffs in the near future.
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